All-new 2019 Toyota RAV4 Scheduled for a Big Apple Reveal

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Too bad that they didn't place the camera inside the vehicle, in an area that gets cleared by the rear wiper.
     
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  2. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Most rear wipers are on the small size. I'm having trouble picturing such a spot that doesn't entail the camera blocking part of the window. It will also have to not run afoul of the defroster wires, but have them close enough to clear the glass of any ice for the camera and wiper blade.

    Actually, my back up camera stays pretty clear. A second camera, set up for distance instead of close up, might work well enough.

    Then agian, if the back of squared off SUVs and hatchbacks didn't get so dirty, they wouldn't need wipers.
     
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  3. SI_Prius

    SI_Prius Well-Known Member

    There is a solution to this:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hybridassistant.tire&hl=sl

    I didn't test it.

    Hybrid variant is also a big hit in Europe
    sales for Jan-Sep 2019:
    RAV4 (all variants): 107,633
    RAV4 Hybrid: 75,168

    So a 70% share
    https://newsroom.toyota.eu/toyota-c...europe-with-838000-vehicle-sales-jan-to-sept/
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid

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    Temperatures below 32 degrees F really take the RAV4 Hybrid to the woodshed. Whether that is around town when EV should be available and is not or the pegged aFCD at 50 to 60 mph when driving down the highway. The engine runs to long and does not provide nearly the efficiency available at higher temps.

    The following pic shows what I thought to be an odd layout. The internal door handle is well forward providing a shorter lever to the fulcrum of door hinges. Not only was it hard to reach, pulling the door shut from that far forward a position is unwieldy. There is no hand hold via cutout in the armrest or any other way to open or close the door other than the handle placed far forward.

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    Wayne
     
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  5. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    So a stiff breeze could possibly force the door open against a weaker hand (hitting the next parked car!).

    Edit: Note to self: don't park next to a newer RAV4.
     
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  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    And my Prius , also. I'm embarrassed to post my #'s in the Grind.
     
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  7. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I will have to check that door handle in my friend's RAV4 Hybrid. I drove the car , but I probably wasn't looking at/judging how the door opened.
     
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  8. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Drove my civic (1.5t 6mt sleek sedan, 2850#) 600 mostly interstate miles this weekend. 1/2 the trip was on and off light rain/freezing rain into a 40 mph (yes, 40 mph) headwind. The other 1/2 was mostly dry with a 25 mph tailwind. Temperatures ranged 34 to 28 deg F. Tires inflated to doorpost 32 psi. Conoco 87 E0.

    Head wind speeds target 65 mph.
    Tailwind speeds targeted 69 mph but occasionally up to 75 mph. Maybe 10 miles of city and 30 miles of unimproved roads were also in the mix.

    Final result? 46.0 mpg (hand calculated at the pump).

    When the chips are down, I'll take lightweight,efficient, and aerodynamic.

    /I'm not knocking the RAV4 hybrid. It's impressive for what it is. Just sayin'....
    //added bonus, the low slung sedan was rock solid even in those crappy winds (not so for the two separate and still occupied mini-vans I drove by that were resting on their sides).
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Carcus:

    The Hyundai Elantra Eco and Civic AT will best the RAV4 HEV out on the highway as their 40 and 38 mpg highway ratings vs the RAV4 Hybrids 38 speaks volumes. When it comes to the manual Civic at 37 mpg manual, they would be close. Around town in temps above 32 degrees F, the RAV4 Hybrid and its 41 mpg city rating would take out all of them easily. The avg consumer however wants a CUV and right now and this is the best of the bunch with the upcoming CRV Hybrid, RAV4 PHEV, Ford Escape Hybrid, and possibly a soon to be announced Tucson Hybrid or PHEV adding to the segment.

    My parents and wife are currently considering a 2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid. I hope both will wait until the PHEVs and the Hyundai offerings arrive but that is not my decision.

    Wayne
     
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  10. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Yep. And they don't even make my car (1.5t 6mt sedan -- under-rated 42 mpg highway) anymore. 2 years of very limited (US) production and that was it.

    I guess there's no point in making them if nobody wants to buy. Glad I got mine when I did. I've owned it for 3 years now,.. and I appreciate it more and more as the years roll by.
     
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  11. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Turn the heat off the engine will not run near as much. I was experiencing that tonight in my Ioniq. Even when coolant gets up to 150 ICE still runs. I turned on heated seats, let interior get warmed then shut off heat. Got 37 on the way home as a result.
     
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  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I brushed off the windows after an ~ 1" snowfall last night. I also cleaned the rear camera lens in which I had a perfectly clear rear view picture from the digital mirror when sitting in the drive before taking off for her last drive this morning. Any snow on the roof takes the camera lens visibility to 0 in less than 2-blocks. In dry weather it will be fine but in snowy or inclement weather conditions, what you see is what you get. :(

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    For version one, it works but not in all conditions. Expect a vast improvement with version 2.0 in just a few years.

    Wayne
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    It will fit 4 to 5 adults reasonably well.

    2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid

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    Profile

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    Front to rear seat leg room.

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    Back seat knee room.​

    Wayne
     
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    And the 37.5 cu. ft. of cargo volumeā€¦

    2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid

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    Wayne
     
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  15. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    You're supposed to clear the roof as well before departing. ;) :D Point taken, though.
     
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  16. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    That "A" pillar looks like a huge blind spot in any weather.
     
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  17. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Then tell one of them to turn around and tell you what they see out of the window if the rear camera is snow covered.
     
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  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Thunderstruck:

    Only through the digital mirror is the view obscured in snowy weather conditions. If you flip the lever on the bottom of the mirror housing - Dim to std. day time view on most cars, you have the std. rearview which is clean with a swipe or two of the rear wiper.

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    Wayne
     
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  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi RedylC94:

    The C/D-Pillar creates a huge blind spot like all CUVs do. Thank goodness for BSM for sure!

    I was hoping someone was going to comment on my split view front and rear seating profile photo. I think it is my best ever as I left everything at full size and cut the front right down the door and mated it on top of a full size rear. I guess that kind of simple fix comes to you after laying off for almost 2 years. ;)

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    Wayne
     
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  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    It does look pretty seamless. Tell the truth : is that your twin brother in the back seat , while a third twin takes the pic ?
     
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