Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermilers!

Discussion in 'Fuel Economy' started by xcel, Jun 5, 2006.

  1. philmcneal

    philmcneal Has it been 10 years? Wow

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    do you FAS at all lindermatt? that's very impressive figures.
     
  2. tarabell

    tarabell Well-Known Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Congrats to the latest crop of hypermilers! If I may be allowed a sentimental note, I'm reminded of the last line or so of Camelot:

     
  3. lindermant

    lindermant Well-Known Member

  4. PCK

    PCK Active Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Thanks for the mention. Things all of a sudden seemed to have clicked the last two
    tanks, the only changes I made was to lower hwy speed from 60 to 55 and working better
    at DWB.

    Thanks again,
    Perry
     
  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Hi All:

    ___We have some new Hypermilers to add to our Band of Brothers and Sisters since the last update almost 3 weeks ago …

    ___Let me start out by congratulating a great friend of mine named Bill Kinney known as Billy around the web and his insight 5-speed named Billy’s Insight for some superior long distance drives around the North American continent. When I say around the N/A continent, I am talking from the Pacific Northwest, to West Coast, the Mexican border, the Central Midwest, up to almost the Artic Circle and back home again. Not only is he our first addition, has anyone noticed he has also achieved Elite status on his induction? Way to go Billy!

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    ___Next I want to congratulate a new friend and soon to be world record holder for distance on a single tank of fuel from a mass produced automobile, Randall and his Insight 5-speed named Highwater’s Vehicle out of Oklahoma. A quick look over his tank over tank improvements over the year as well as his instant Expert status is about all you need to understand about the new benchmarks he has set for all to admire. Keep up those great tanks Randall as you are making the world take notice like no other!

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    ___Yet another consummate Insighter and friend I have come to know personally over the years … Please welcome and congratulate Brian H. or NEmystic as most have come to know him over the years at IC driving his Insight 5-speed named Sputnik. Not only has he maintained Hypermiler status, he has done so while driving some of the most challenging terrain (mountains of Western MA.) that anyone could imagine outside of possibly a downtown San Francisco native could appreciate. Keep up the great drives Brian as you certainly have earned my respect as well as others.

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    ___Another Insighter? Please welcome Joe S’s and his 2002 Honda Insight named Peta. Joe, let us try and break those numbers out a bit on your next round of updates to see your own improvements over the months/years if possible …

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    ___And our final Insighter for this morning, please welcome and congratulate HAFNHAF in his 2000 Honda Insight named HAFNHAF. Doing what he needs to by beating the EPA combined on every tank just as he should. Keep up the great work but don’t let it slip if you know what I mean ;)

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    ___Next we have a Prius II driver who has been doing everything under the sun to continually improve his segments and tanks while pushing to the top of the Prius II list. Please welcome and congratulate Dcoyne78 and his Prius II named Lowco2. Keep an eye out for Dennis as he is aggressive enough to not only rise to the top but to maintain his Prius II there for as long as possible.

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    ___Next comes the HCH-II pilot’s. Please welcome and congratulate Riksmg1’s and 2006 HCH-II named Riksmg1’s Vehicle. I see no discernable pattern but he is doing what needs to be done to maintain a healthy margin above the EPA combined. Nice job Riksmg1!

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    ___Finally a congratulations and a warm welcome to our last hypermiler named Wmschmitz’s and his 2006 HCH-II named Schmitz's. Looking at his tank data, I see the usual initial break-in and learning curve, steady climb, and then the breakout for true hypermile recognition. Nice job and keep up that kind of climb as it is not only a classic, it is an inspiration for all newer drivers who happen to view your details as a roadmap for their own.

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    ___Good Luck and congratulations to you all as you have certainly earned my respect and hopefully that of your peers around the world!

    ___We have some manual editing of the EPA numbers as they appear in the sigs given some may have manually entered their automobiles EPA numbers incorrectly or the DBase’s list allowed its own share of mistakes … We will take care of these miscues as soon as possible.

    ___Wayne
     
  6. highwater

    highwater Well-Known Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Here's to everyone doing what they can to make a difference.

    :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

    Randall
    (I couldn't get those little guys to do the wave:D )
     
  7. highwater

    highwater Well-Known Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    OK, I thought about it for a little bit, and this is what I'm tryin' to say:

    I see hypermilers as trying to work themselves out of a job. If I'm allowed to die of old age, I believe I will see the day when personal transportation will not consume a hydrocarbon fuel. That is what I'm saying in my sig about the Insight growing up to become a gas hog. Someday in the future, the little beauty will either be converted to pure EV or put up on blocks, and dusted off for the remember when parties.

    Once we get past burning the hydrocarbons, we here at CLNMPG will likely do the same with kilowatts or whatever energies we use for motovation.

    I feel like I'm part of a team around here, and from reading a lot of different posts since signing up, it seems everyone else feels the same. Lots of encouragment from fellow members no matter what you drive. Wayne encouraged me, after meeting him at Madison for the first time, to do the overfill thing and see if I could beat his long distance tank. The leader of the pack saying, here I am take me out :Banane36: . Then someone like Justin from the madisonhybridgroup, will come along and shoot me down.:Banane45: That young man is going to make a difference in this world. I just barely got to make his aquaintance at HF06. And Billy hits the ground running at ~100lmpg. Then there's another fellow IC'er, whose hypermiling chart is currently dormant, and that is Rick Reese. When he gets back in the country, let the party begin.:Banane57: . I hope he will join us here as well. He's got like 150,000 miles at over 90mpg. There's something else to shoot at:Banane36: There are a lot of others that Wayne has mentioned above that I have benefited from, by reading their posts. I've even read the Prius guys stuff:eek: .

    Thanks for allowing me to be a part of the team. Whatever I do......I hope the team comes out ahead.
     
  8. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

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    Just look at those tank logs. The best in the world are here. :)
     
  9. diamondlarry

    diamondlarry Super MPG Man/god :D

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    As I've said before, if one of us wins, we all win. Wayne is a great example of someone who wins and helps others to win too. I'm looking forward to meeting Wayne some of the rest of the team this weekend.
     
  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Hi All:

    ___Just a week later and we have a few more hypermilers to congratulate!

    ___Our first hypermiler goes by the nick Mr. Kite driving his 2006 HCH-II named Thrust!. Right about the end of June something changed and it was probably not just break in. Way to keep those 60 + mpg tanks coming as it looks like you aren’t even really starting to push … just yet that is ;)

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    ___Our next hypermiler is someone who has done a great service to HCH-II owners the world over with her article entitled “Adapting Basic Hypermiling Techniques to the HCH-II”. Finally she been able to drive without having her hubby taking her segments and tanks down over ultra short drives again and again. Tarabell, congratulations as you most certainly deserve the recognition and another thank you for teaching all of us what its like to drive the HCH-II to near it limits without taking extreme measures.

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    ___There are a quite a few drivers who are just under the 5,000 mile minimum requirement for recognition who are just about to punch through that minimum while holding above EPA combined. Don’t stop pushing and most certainly do not stop posting. Winter is coming up and we all have to build the largest buffers possibly knowing what is ahead.

    ___Good Luck and congrats to both Mr. Kite and Tarabell for nailing down what the naysayers tell us is impossible again and again ;)

    ___Wayne
     
  11. MoGryph

    MoGryph Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Ah... I was wondering why I didn't make the cut- glad to learn I wasn't just forgotten. :)

    Oh, puh-lease, don't remind me that Winter's almost here.... Ugh. LOL. I'm hoping mine doesn't get dropped TOO much.

    BTW: What's the qualifying % for ELITE Hypermiler?
     
  12. tbaleno

    tbaleno Well-Known Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    expect a 5 to 10mpg drop :(

    I *may* even reduce the use of remote starting my car so my hit isn't as bad. Last winter I dropped from about 52mpg to about 34mpg. But that isn't very typical because I do very nasty things in the winter with my car.
     
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Hi MoGryph:

    ___Elite is 50% above EPA combined or 75 lmpg in your HCH-II … You are getting there but it is not an overnight kind of thing. You really have to push tanks and I am talking about every time you turn the key and never ever give up to maintain it year round. Not impossible but you can never let up and you will probably have to step up to the most of advanced techniques to get there. Some commutes depending on where you live (year round temps) and the type of traffic/terrain make it impossible whereas others make it a bit easier … In any case, Expert is within reach at 62.5 lmpg and you still have over 2500 miles to get there one way or the other. Take it as a personal challenge as I want you to have at least an Expert Rating at the 5K mark but you will have to step it up a notch or two. I will be looking forward to making your intro to the inductees with an announcement in about 6 - 7 short weeks and as always; I am watching everyone’s tanks go in ;)

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  14. Mr. Kite

    Mr. Kite Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. I thought I had plateaued until today. I just started FASing in my Odyssey and will try it in the HCHII the next time I drive it. Several sections of my daily commute are very conducive to an FAS.
     
  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Hi Mr. Kite:

    ___As I believe Tom or Dan K said to me just a few months ago, “May the FAS be with you”. I will pass these magnificent words of wisdom on to you as well :D

    ___Be careful FAS’ing the Ody as it uses the same (similar) tranny as the MDX … Pretty close anyway and they are not known for being bullet proof by those that do beat the hell out of them running 0 – 60 in 10 seconds or less all the time :( Not that a hypermiler would ever cause damage but I wouldn’t P&G her as you would be asking for trouble down the road … They (The MDX and Ody’s) are just too darn heavy. You can receive great FE from them as I am sure you have seen the MDX pics but getting > 30 compared to 70 + from the HCH-II is like fishing with dynamite … You can do it but why bother when the HCH-II does it so much better if you know what I mean :)

    ___Good Luck and congrats on jumping into the hypermiler ranks here at CleanMPG!

    ___Wayne
     
  16. Mr. Kite

    Mr. Kite Well-Known Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    I'm not one to P&G anyway. My FAS's were going downhill and approaching stoplights. Here's an example: On my drive home, there is a distance of 1.0 miles between two intersections. After passing the first intersection, I immediately round a mild hill and do a FAS. The road is a very mild downhill slope the rest of the way to the next intersection. My speed is just over 30 and the limit is 30. The limit then drops to 25. My speed starts approaching 20mph as I near the next intersection. Depending on the state of the light, I either come to a stop or restart the engine.

    How rough is it on the tranny to shift from N to D while moving? It felt pretty smooth other than the time I did not let the RPMs stabilize before shifting. Wear and tear on the vehicle is certainly something I would consider.

    I know the HCH-II is a lot more fun to drive from a FE perspective, but I do not get to drive it every day. Since we bought the HCH-II, we have still consumed more fuel in the Odyssey than the HCH-II so there is a lot of fuel to be saved. Based upon my one day experiment, it looks like using a bit of FASing can easily improve my FE by 20%.
     
  17. antrey

    antrey Well-Known Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    What MDX pictures are you referring to? I'd really like to be able to hit even 100% of the EPA combined mileage on my wife's Odyssey. Alot of people complain about the Odyssey fuel economy. There used to be a database online where people would input their Odyssey fuel mileage and I never saw a single entry close to the EPA highway mileage.

    ....nevermind. I did a search and see you own an MDX and have gotten over 30mpg on some segments. You warn against P&G. What techniques did you use to get over 30mpg on your MDX? I might have to borrow the wife's Odyssey for a week to see if I can knockout a higher than EPA combined tank.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2006
  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Hi Antrey:

    ___You are not alone as non-EPA combined like FE is the same as achieved over at AcuraMDX.org as well. I was a prolific poster over there before we picked up the MDX and well into owning it but it was not my vehicle and I never really got to drive it much :( Thus the slowly fading interest. That vehicle was my wife’s doing more then mine although I do have to say the lux end of the deal sure was nice! Most members over there are probably in the high 17’s, low 18’s as an lmpg if I would take a guess and it is just not acceptable knowing what the darn thing can be driven too when heading out to the store or wherever. The Ody has even more advantage as it doesn’t have 2 fluid clutches locking up the rear end for AWD during ANY acceleration up to 18 mph, it is more Fuel efficient to begin with, and is much lower to the ground. Frontal area is probably similar if not larger however? You have to FAS to every stop as should be the case with all automobiles … The one time I attempted P&G, she was pushing into the high 30’s/low 40’s IIRC. Either way, that tranny is not to be toyed with. FAS’ing to a stop and re-engagement like you are leaving home in the morning is fine but you do not want to get into a scenario where you are doing this at speed (P&G) if you can help it. The MDX/Pilot/Ody tranny is smooth as silk but the re-engagement time (time for it to be ready to accept torque) leaves a lot to be desired …

    ___As how to get to 30 + … It is just like doubling the EPA only easier because you are only shooting for 25 - 50% of the EPA combined depending on which Ody you own. You have all the tools in the tool box and you use them at the appropriate times. They are not all that hard to master and some would be ill advised in the case of the MDX/Pilot/Ody as explained above but put them altogether and you can make those big pigs sing just like an Accord, the Ranger, Corolla, whatever or a Hybrid of whatever type when within its element. You just have to accept ½ or less of what a decent hybrid driver would receive is all :(

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  19. Pravus Prime

    Pravus Prime Banned

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    I'm not on the list.

    "I'll transfer your tanks over" - Wayne at Hybridfest to me. ;)

    Don't make me sick the army on you!

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  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: Congratulations CleanMPG Hypermiler’s!

    Hi Rich:

    ___Ouch! It looks like someone I know will be doing some tank entries over the next few days ;) You can get started here as Tom never wrote the code to do the transfer from GH via single touch of the button ... He just didn't think it would be fair to do that :D

    Add New Vehicle.

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     

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