Month of August 2021 (Nat’l avg $3.173)

Discussion in 'The Daily Grind' started by Gord, Aug 1, 2021.

  1. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Agree with Edwin. Beautiful car! Great first commute, too!

    MPGe and Wh/mile are equivalent measures. Cost and cost per mile would be derived with cost/kWh info.

    Excellent on all counts. That 50 kW charging rate is probably nothing stress-wise for the big battery, especially with the discipline you've shown already. I can tell you're well prepared, and will treat your car with great care, just as you had with the Audi.
     
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  2. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks Edwin and Bill :D
     
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Going to drive a Leaf tonight. I'm not really sure if I want to buy one.

    I already have a car with a used battery pack.

    Long-term , the Leaf could be expensive.
    But so could the Prius.
     
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  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Thanks , Bill. I was a bit corn-fused.
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 74 deg F in Naperville and Elk Grove.
    35.2 miles , fcd = 67.6 x .943 = 63.7 MPG.
    This normal morning route consists of approx. 12 miles of
    suburban roads ( mostly 4-lane ) and 23 miles of Interstate highway.
     
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  6. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Is it the newer shape Leaf Edwin? They have much improved looks over the original.

    Last night I should have listened to the Tesla! I got in and it told me to turn right which is normally slower and I only use it when the normal routes out of the city are more problematic than normal (I call it detour #8). Almost straight away hit almost standing traffic and then heard the sound of a fire engine behind so everyone shoehorned themselves to the sides of the road to let it through. At the first opportunity I turned around and went the way the car had wanted me too and it was fine from then on, 72°F:

    22.9 miles - 213 Wh/mi or 158.2MPGe (Range dropped 22 to 255)

    Did a slow charge for a few hours and topped the range up to 287 miles.

    This morning, motorway route:

    21.4 miles - 202 Wh/mi or 166.9MPGe (Range dropped 22 to 265)

    The sat nav seems to know where I want to go! I just get in and it either routes me to home or to work - clever :cool:. Early days but I'm loving it so far.
     
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  7. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yes , I drove a loaded-up 2021 Leaf Plus , so it's gotta be the newer shape.
    Initial impression : it's slow. I know from the gearhead magazines that it's considerably
    quicker than my Prius , but "throttle" response is lazy. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
    Not sure what the range was when we started our short test drive (2 miles ) , but when I looked at
    the display , it said 297 miles.

    I do like the car. I put down a $500 deposit to "get in line" for a 2022 car which will not arrive until March 2022.
    If I don't like the selection or price , I can ( theoretically ) get my deposit back.

    They are trying to make me believe that they can't order a specific car ; they just get what Nissan sends them.
    :)
     
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  8. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Love hearing these insights on the Model 3, Gord. Thanks!

    I took a couple days off for a tooth extraction yesterday. Hurt like heck for many minutes, but now quite relieved.

    Drove an errand loop today under ideal conditions, trying to use as little EV mode as possible. Secondary and city streets, 45 mph or lower, 75 deg F, tires at 40 psi rising to 42 psi.

    fcd: 73.5 mpg
    trip: 15.5 miles
    16/20-13 (battery bars and range at the end) yes... this plug-in is only rated for 17 miles of EV driving though I'm sure it can do much better most of the time.

    calculated:
    0.2109 gal
    0.0337 egal (1.14 kWh)
    63.4 mpge
     
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  9. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I hear Ford would gladly if not prefer to build to your specifications. :D
     
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  10. TheFordFamily

    TheFordFamily Well-Known Member

    Taking the Camry back into the dealership today. The brakes are still making a noise even after they fixed the TSB. I'm going to test drive their last hybrid on the lot to see if it still makes the same noise. I still love the car, just a bit annoyed. Still sitting at around 55 MPG using A/C although with how often I've been hitting every traffic light going to and from work it will probably go down!

    The C-Max is still around and kicking. Going to take it in for its next 6 month service within the next couple of weeks. Also will need to fill up the tank! It's finally almost on empty.
     
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Ford makes cars ? I learn something every day.

    Filled up yesterday on the way home. 626.4 miles , fcd = 70.8 * .943 = 66.8 MPG.

    Today , 70 deg F in Naperville , 71 in Elk Grove Village.
    35.2 miles , fcd = 68.9 x .943 = 65.0 MPG.
     
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  12. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Last night, non-motorway route, 66°F:

    19.6 miles - 206 Wh/mi or 163.6MPGe (Range dropped 20 to 245)

    Did a slow charge for 4 hours 47 minutes and topped the range up to 294 miles - 49 miles added using granny charger.

    This morning, motorway route, 59°F:

    21.4 miles - 209 Wh/mi or 161.3MPGe (Range dropped 22 to 269 - it had dropped to 291 this morning - I'll have top watch this phantom loss)
     
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  13. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I suspect aside from normal loss of charge over time (very small amount overnight), there would be differences in stated capacity, depending on how the charge level is calculated. The different cells won't all charge or discharge at the same rate and there will be some balancing going on after charging ends, to even things out. Again, very tiny difference in the voltage levels so I don't know if it would show up as a significant change. I would expect the connected car activity (OTA downloads and uploads) and surveillance system have a bigger effect on power consumption. :)
     
  14. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks Bill, I think you’re right :)
     
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  15. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    re: Model 3 security - a little story. At the parking structure at work, I have parked many times next to or almost next to a blue Model 3 from New Hampshire. There is a narrow, raised sidewalk between parking spots and the metal barrier. I usually walk behind the cars as most people pull straight in on the slanted parking spots off the one way lane, and it is easy for the sidewalk to be blocked if one pulls in too far. It's usually only a few car widths before I can get to a major crosswalk anyway. One day I walked on the sidewalk in front of the Tesla, and though I did not touch it, it flashed its headlights at me. I was a little surprised but not startled. I turned to the car and smiled and waved. What a friendly little car it is. :)
     
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  16. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Nice :D

    Last night, non-motorway route, 70°F:

    19.5 miles - 203 Wh/mi or 166MPGe (Range only dropped 18 to 251)

    Did a slow charge for 3 hours 40 minutes - range up to 287 miles - 36 miles added.

    This morning, motorway route, 61°F:

    21.4 miles - 217 Wh/mi or 155.3MPGe (Range dropped 22 to 265 - didn't lose any range overnight last night).
     
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  17. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , went to work late ( as planned ) because of concert Sunday night. Not accustomed
    to traffic at 8:15-9:00. Once I figured out a rhythm , it wasn't so bad.
    17.2 miles , fcd = 65.7 x .943 = 62.0 MPG.
     
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 67 deg F in Naperville and Elk Grove.
    Weather.com said the wind was NE 7 , so..........headwind all the way.
    Added to that , I started out with a low battery.
    35.2 miles , fcd = 61.6 x .943 = 58.1 MPG. Ouch.

    I did have a good trip home yesterday : 32.6 miles, fcd = 75.3
     
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  19. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Catching up :rolleyes:


    8/25, going home, non-motorway route, 70°F:
    19.5 miles - 203 Wh/mi or 166MPGe (Range only dropped 18 to 251)

    Did a slow charge for 3 hours 40 minutes - range up to 287 miles - 36 miles added.

    8/26, morning, motorway route, 61°F:
    21.4 miles - 217 Wh/mi or 155.3MPGe (Range dropped 22 to 265 - didn't lose any range overnight last night).

    Going home, non-motorway route, 61°F:
    19.5 miles - 202 Wh/mi or 167MPGe (Range dropped 20 to 245)

    8/27, went to supermarket with free 50kWh chargers, 94 miles added.

    That afternoon first longer drive to holiday home, 61°F:
    106.5 miles - 225 Wh/mi or 150MPGe (Range dropped 115 to 217 - bit of a difference).

    8/28, didn't drive but added 46 miles using granny charger to get me back to 263 miles.

    8/29, Needed to do some shopping so drove to the only supermarket in the area with a charger (Aldi), it's only a 7kWh charger but again, it's free so I'm not complaining! Another 23 miles added.
    3.4 miles - didn't record Wh/mi!
    3.1 miles back - 197 Wh/mi or 171MPGe (Range dropped 282 to 279).

    8/30, went for lunch at one of our usual haunts, I then dropped the girls off near town and went back to holiday home with the dog. When they were ready I picked them back up again.
    14.2 miles in total - 238 Wh/mi or 142MPGe (Range down to 262).

    8/31, back home, 67°F:
    106.3 miles - 206 Wh/mi or 164MPGe (Range dropped 262 to 154 so a lot closer this time).
     
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  20. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Did you perchance mean 50kW and 7kW, meaning power output of the chargers is limited to those levels? A number of kWh would imply energy for the session is restricted, with peak power output undefined.
     
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