Week of January 8 to January 14 (Nat’l Avg $2.492)

Discussion in 'The Daily Grind' started by Gord, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    My windows were fogging from the outside the past couple days... colder in my garage than outside and with the moist air...

    Sorry to hear of your troubles, Edwin. I'm sure you're beating yourself up enough, so no need to pile on. Just don't do it again.
  2. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I think you're nuts riding through the woods at night. I hope that it is very familiar terrain at least. Stay rubber side down and may the branches in your path of life point away from you.
  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Thanks , Bill.

    Gord , I think riding thru the woods at night is splendid adventure.
    Around here , you'd probably get arrested for it.
    I don't have lights on my bikes anyway.
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  4. puddleglum

    puddleglum Well-Known Member

    Gord, it's nice you can ride all year round. There's one or two hardcore guys here I've seen out riding, even in this extreme cold. I sure couldn't do it.

    Edwin, it's been my experience that my most painful lessons have taught me the most. Hard as it is, if it makes you wiser in the future, you'll be better because of it. Glad no one was hurt.

    32.6 - 4 mi., -32*C (-41*C windchill) to work.
    45.5 - 5.9 mi. -22*C (-31*C windchill) from work to drug store, then to grocery store.
    39 - .9 mi. home.
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Car appears to be as good as new. I need to look at the paperwork , but I think they replaced all the aluminum on top to take care of the hail damage.
    And the collision damage looks good , but I will inspect it carefully in the sunlight when I get out of work at noon.
    6 deg F , wind NW11. 15.4 miles , no highway , no heater , no defrost , 52.08 MPG. Tank is at....... not pretty. The mechanics obviously left it in ready
    mode at times ; I had 2/8 bars SOC when I picked it up.

    If it's not icy or snowy Sunday morning , I will ride my bike to health club , about 3.8 miles.
  6. puddleglum

    puddleglum Well-Known Member

    Did some shopping with the family for an outing today. Much warmer today 54.5*F temp rise in about 30 hours. 26-28*F when we were out, felt like spring after that bitter cold.
    Car liked it better too.
    44.1 - 5.9 to the south end of town, 52 - 3 to coffee shop, 54.7 - 2.9 to another store, 52 - 1.2 home.
    48.6 - 13.1 mi. avg. for the day.
    Tank bounced back a little, showing 44.9 - 2.38 gal - 106 mi. and just below the full mark.
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  7. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!


    It's only been slightly sketchy for traction, and of course I had a headwind today.

    Worse, someone, somewhere screwed my load up and I've been sitting about 9 hours waiting for it to be resolved. Currently 12*f and snowing. I was running my diesel furnace but the blower motor ran the battery down so I've had to run 14.8l of Detroit Diesel's finest just to charge the 12v up again for the night. Blah.

    7.1mpg so far this week.

    We traveled a lot over Christmas, I took nearly 2 weeks off. I discovered the Town + Country is quite adept at better numbers than 5000lbs motivated by nearly 300hp should get at speeds which would give many of you a stroke.
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  8. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Can you keep a couple of high Amp-h deep cycle batteries to supply 12V power and avoid the use of the big diesel just to charge the battery? You could probably recharge the deep cycle batteries once on the road again.
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  9. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    There's actually a well between the framerails just behind the cab just for this. On my old truck which had a battery-powered HVAC system for night use, it held four such batteries. But that would be an unsanctioned modification of company equipment, and of course I wouldn't be reimbursed for buying batteries to keep from burning fuel I don't even pay for. Also, this thing's over 440k miles now, and they'll likely be selling it soon, with exactly zero guarantees I'd be able to use the batteries on my next rig. My company has been experimenting with some other makes the last couple of years. I wish they'd go back to the battery HVAC units or equip us with generators.
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  10. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Thanks. Seemed a bit too easy. I understand now re: the rig ownership.
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  11. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    Yeah. I've seen some of the "southern engineering" on some of the trucks out there, so I understand why they're pretty strict about it.

    On the upside, at idle this thing's only burning .5-.6gph, which I consider not too shabby.
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  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    First, second, and third tank on the 2018 Hyundai Elantra ECO while crossing a large swath of the continent. A new feeling contributing to the weekly thread with my own car after almost 5-years of absence without a car I could call my own. :)

    2018 Hyundai Elantra ECO

    Posing below a "Red Tails" P-51 at the Proud Bird Restaurant in Los Angeles, CA.​

    Topped off in Carlsbad, CA. after consuming most of the first free fill from Hyundai.


    01/11/2018 Tank #1: Carlsbad, CA to Gallup, NM -- 0' ASL to 6,200' ASL

    Trip A: 689.6 miles - Garmin 695.5 miles - aFCD at 58.9 mpg w/ avg. speed of 58 mph. Temps from 38 to 71 degrees F.

    695.5 actual miles on 12.740 gallons = 54.6 mpg


    01/12/2018 Tank #2: Gallup, NM to Tulsa, OK -- 6,200' ASL to 3,600' ASL

    Trip A: 793.2 miles - Garmin 799.1 miles - aFCD at 59.0 mpg w/ avg. speed of 60 mph. Temps from 13 to 35 degrees F.

    799.1 actual miles on 14.504 (1.503+ 13.001) gallons = 55.095 mpg


    01/12/2018 Tank #3: Tulsa, OK to Chenoa, IL -- 3,600' ASL to 850' ASL

    Trip A: 585.5 miles - Garmin 589.2 miles - aFCD at 48.5 mpg w/ avg. speed of 58 mph. Temps from 9 to 22 degrees F w/headwinds from 10 to 30 mph.

    589.2 actual miles on 12.859 gallons = 45.82 mpg

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  13. puddleglum

    puddleglum Well-Known Member

    As always, your mileage is really impressive. It's interesting that the colder temps and headwinds hurt mileage more than than the dramatic elevation changes. Did the car give you those numbers easily or did you have to really work for it?

    I got lazy and didn't track my mpg today. (5 trips, 13 miles) 20-30*F but snow today. Tank is down to 44.7.
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  14. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    I'm actually not that surprised at all. Both my Echo and Civic hate the cold, FE-wise, and any head- or side-wind took a big toll too. There isn't much you can do about it, but with elevation changes you can at least play them out to recoup a bit of the loss.
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  15. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Welcome to the grind Wayne :D

    Friday evening went to collect youngest's friend for the weekend, 3UP going, 4UP back, 42°F, 8mph head/crosswind SW:
    45.9 / 17.1
    45.4 / 17.2

    Saturday morning had the pleasure of a trip to IKEA , 4UP, 4°C, 9mph tail/crosswind SE:
    46.6 / 16.8
    IKEA to our local pub for lunch:
    44.1 / 16.6
    Pub to supermarket:
    33.7 / 1.0
    Car was still clean from the wash I gave it in the morning:


    I’ve had the Audi 2 1/2 years now - love it :)

    Supermarket to home:
    33.9 / 1.3

    Tank up 0.2 at 44.0 / 230.3 / Range 385 . Guess gauge F__«|««««E . UG down 0.5 at 45.6 . DTE385

    Lost 2nd pip @ 210 miles
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  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Gord , is it really a "pleasure" to go to Ikea ? Our stores here are set up like a maze ; you have to walk thru every aisle and every
    department to find your way out ( or to find food ). Add women and children to the mix , it could be a real non-pleasure.

    Today , 18 deg F , roads thick with very slippery snow , wind not much of a factor when you are seldom above 30MPH.
    Glides are of course limited by snow , and ABS and traction control were working overtime. When I first got this car , I thought
    it was an excellent winter cruiser , because the soft throttle response means you can get going in snow without wheelspin.
    After 62K on the tires , not so great. And I'm still a bit gunshy after my accident on Dec 29 ( also in the snow).

    I did get to work safely today , about 45MPG for about 15.5 miles.

    Gord , I don't recall seeing a pic of your car before. It's quite handsome. They used to sell it here , before AudiUSA determined that Americans
    "don't want hatchbacks". When they did sell it , it was only with an engine that was too powerful and thirsty.
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  17. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks Edwin, I find the hatchback very practical and my engine isn’t US sized at 1.4 Turbo ;)

    Re: IKEA I forgot to add this :rolleyes::eek::p on all counts!
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  18. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Saturday to a beekeeping class in the next town. Had to hurry home after. This will be an interesting new venture at the homestead!
    46.0 / 33.5 out
    42.5 / 36.5 back
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  19. puddleglum

    puddleglum Well-Known Member

    I know what you're saying and I agree. Head and crosswinds always hurt my highway mileage. It's just that I think the Elantra is supposed to be more Aerodynamic than than the Echo, the Civic or most other older cars. I had wondered how much the improved aero would help in windy conditions, that's all. I know a California car isn't going to be optimized for cold weather driving, but temps for the 2nd and 3rd tanks were similar. It would seem most of the hit must still have come from the wind drag.

    Gord, it is a nice looking car. I'm kind of partial to small wagons but they are extremely rare here.
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  20. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks puddleglum :D

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