Shell on a Selling Spree to Survive

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Premium gasoline being ethanol-free seems to be a Canadian thing. My lawnmower gets nothing but V-power o_O
     
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  2. If I plug into the obdii port, there is an ethonal percentage reading. This truck is a flex fuel. Not sure if the non flex fuel vehicles can read it.
    I did run a few tanks of e0 through the truck. Got the reading down to 3%
     
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  3. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk 2010 Prius (CAN Touring) Staff Member

    Yeah just checked at a Port Moody BC station, the old Shell names: Bronze (regular, octane 87), Silver (mid-grade) and Gold (high grade, octane 91) are indicated on the pumps as 10%, 5% and 0% ethanol, respectively.
     
  4. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    There's a new station here in town that sells E0 premium. It's a hefty price, but I pay it for my lawn equipment. Weedwackers and chainsaws just HATE ethanol. And I get sick and tired of no-starts and wearing out my arm pulling the cord and rebuilding carburetors.

    I'm testing back and forth with my car to see what it does.
     
  5. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    I'll be switching from the local branded 87 E0 to Shell 93 E 5to10(?). Looks like I'm seeing a 5% or so jump in mpg with Shell 93 V power nitro+. Have to run through several more tanks and summer weather to verify for sure.

    Major advantages
    - Just about the best mpg the ECU controlling my turbocharged engine can muster (initial indications are, perhaps even better than when I would occasionaly use local branded 91 E0).
    - I'm pretty well convinced it has significantly more cleaning additives to help keep my fuel injectors, valves etc... as clean as possible -- which is apparently fairly sensitive/critical with the latest pumped up and direct injected engines.
    - Availability -- Shell is readily available in the circles I run.



    Disadvantage:

    -mostly price, but I have a shell card and other discount options I plan to use to try and mitigate that somewhat. Plus a station on my regular route seems to run about 20c cheaper than most other Shell stations locally.
    -no more ethanol free, but my car is driven on a regular basis, .. so I'm not too concerned
     
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  6. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    I saw an increase in MPG with premium E10 in my turbo Sonic. The cost per mile was about even with regular E10 when the premium was 20 to 25 cents more. The difference is now much higher. The ethanol will give some extra cylinder cooling, and the blend might also be higher octane than label. Ethanol is also a decent fuel system cleaner.
     
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  7. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    If it keeps me from replacing another set of fuel injectors, .. the additional price per gallon will be well worth it.
     
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  8. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    Long love enthanol and its anti knock properties!!! Hip hip!
     
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  9. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Well.... no! For 87 octane ethanol-free gasoline, all the gasoline is 87 octane (duh). However, poorly designated 87 octane 10% ethanol fuel blend (E10) has ethanol that is 114 octane. The ethanol doesn't knock. However, to make poorly designated 87 octane E10 to mathematically be 87 octane, the 90% gasoline component must be 84 octane. If any knocking does occur, it is the 84 octane gasoline component. That is why many people replace the 84 octane gasoline that is in E10 with 87 octane E0, raising the gasoline octane by 3 points, often to the point the engine doesn't knock any more.
     
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  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Engine knock ? We're in the 21st century , not 1965.
    If your engine knocks , you're either in the wrong gear or the wrong century.
    And yes, I drove for years with E0 fuel.
     
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  11. litesong

    litesong litesong

    It was priusCpilot who liked the so-called "anti-knock ethanol" properties. I explained that 87 octane E0 would theoretically knock less than poorly designated 87 octane 10% ethanol blend (E10). You can talk with priusCpilot.
     
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  12. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    The engine doesn't knock, but more knock resistant fuel allows the ECU to advance ignition timing for better efficiency and performance.
    Then engines designed for the global market might actually be able to make use of gas with an octane higher than their label says.
     

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