What is that in the drive, a Prius v-5?

Discussion in 'Toyota Prius Family' started by xcel, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    If you get those, can you also measure the lumber length space from the hatch between the front seats to the radio? Like you did for me in the Mazda 2. (thanks) I did two trips last week with 8ft lumber in my Civic.

    Edit: Found another review that says it will.
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    Last edited: Apr 27, 2012
  2. all_about_the_glide

    all_about_the_glide Well-Known Member

    Money-- Have not looked at opportunity costs nor present value of the residual (most of history tells us future dollars and worth less than $$ today), but I'm trying to rationalize (ie biased) the V as objectively as possible :eyebrow:. Others here may ask the question as the Soul is considerably cheaper up front, the others are close enough after a few months of operation to be a push...the beater minivan is a non-starter.

    My main financial argument is the V as a hedge against raising fuel prices...obviously its operational advantage increases proportionately with increases at the pump, I feel safe assuming that its absolute and relative residual advantage will behave the same vis-a-vis any current substitute. If the world gets fracking fever and gas is two bucks a gallon in 2018 then the V was not the best choice in dollars, but I'll still be under budget--just not as much.

    Most importantly: no matter the cost at the pump, the V burns a lot less petrol lessening the deleterious environmental and societal externalities of running a rig down the road. Less CO2for me to offset as well.

    WriConsult-- I'd drive a stick (my HCH is the first non-manual car I've driven on a weekly basis) the others drivers are not interested. We're down to the V and the Soul with a keep the money at home (or a least a larger % of it) vote to wait for the C-Max. Consensus building aint easy.
     
  3. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    I'd like to see the Mazda 5 included. It's almost exactly the same size, but lower price and mpg and more seats.
     
  4. all_about_the_glide

    all_about_the_glide Well-Known Member

    OK...might as well and the 5.
     
  5. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    I found another review that says the front passenger seat folds flat and 8 ft lumber will fit in that space.
     
  6. EVuser

    EVuser Well-Known Member

    Local dealer advertising V three this week at $3000 off of sticker (7 at that price). That makes for a interesting calculation. I haven't seen their "real price" but they are obviously dealing.

    Andrew, I'm almost certain have seen a graphic somewhere on the Toyota V site with a surf board loaded over the folded rearward front passenger seat. Makes one long shot from back to dash.
    Find it towards the end of this video, no surf board but seat folded. I'm guessing that center rear area just can't be very comfortable.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnr-XYcXZ8I&feature=player_embedded#!

    Mike
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Mike:

    That surfboard pic is in the CleanMPG spec sheet page with the link in the OP on the first page of the Review.

    2012 Toyota Prius-v Specifications

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    Andrew and Colin, I have a ton of rear cargo area pics for sizing to upload. I posted the back hatch top the back of the front seats in an earlier post. Unfortunately the v-5’s passenger front seat does not fold flat forward like the v-2 or v-3 so it does not have the same cargo length available to it. My mom stopped over this morning with her v-3 and I should have taken that measurement while she was here. I will the next time I see her.

    Dan, here was the first measurement I took the other day:

    First interior measurements

    More to come in a few minutes as I took a lot of measurement shots for you before they picked it up this morning.

    Wayne
     
  8. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Thanks Wayne. Knowing that detail, I would certainly save my money and buy a -2 or -3 and not the 5. No need to make the measurement as it seems they designed it to fit 8'.
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Andrew and Colin:

    Here is the beginning of those measurement shots.

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    40 in from back of the seats moved to their most rearward position to center of plastic sill plate.

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    47 in from back of the seats moved to their most forward position to center of plastic sill plate.​

    Wayne
     
  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2012 Prius v Review

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    36” width on the sill plate.

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    29.5” height from the sill plate to the top of the hatch opening.

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    39” between the rear wheel wells within the cargo area.​

    Wayne
     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Andrew:

    Even though you do not need them now, at least you have them.

    2012 Prius v Review

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    77 in from the back of center console to the center of the plastic sill plate with rear seats folded down.​

    Wayne
     
  12. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    75" is long enough for someone to sleep back there.
     
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2012 Prius v Review

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    The v's 3 aFCDs: 61.0 mpg since they dropped it off, 60.4 mpg after 322.5 miles since its final top
    off and 63.1 mpg over the last 170.5 miles after 100 + miles of high speed vs. mpg data results.​

    Knock of 5.3% for the actuals and you have the daily drives with maybe 35 to 40 stops over the past week.

    I did take my parents v-3 out this morning and it works a lot less to accelerate and maintain speed so the v-5's 17" shoes are really hampering its fuel economy capability.

    My mom in her Prius had a long term average of 47 to 48 mpg and would routinely pull about 52 to 55 mpg in the temperatures we have been experiencing as of late. 30's to 50 degree F. I got in her v-3 today and the aFCd since I filled it the day after she picked it up is sitting at 52.8 mpg. We will see if it has the v-3 from San Francisco's offset of just 1.8% or the v-5 I had of 5.3%. If it is the smaller, she is doing just as well with her v-3 as she did with her 2010 Gen-3 hatch!

    Wayne
     
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jud:
    Exactly ;)

    Wayne
     
  15. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Where exactly is that 77 measured from?
     
  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Andrew:

    77 in is from the back of center console (rear hatch cargo area) to the center of the plastic sill plate in the back with rear seats folded down.

    Wayne
     
  17. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    So somewhere around the back of the front seats? The space you'd get with the back row folded flat?

    Bottom right
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  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Andrew:

    The lower right cargo area picture with the rear seats folded down. From the center of the rear plastic sill plate to the rear of the center console is 77".

    Wayne
     
  19. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Thanks, Wayne.

    I just looked it up. A twin mattress is 39" x 75". An exact fit for this space. :D
     
  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The following results still saddens me to no end. I snapped the pic just before STI picked it up this morning.

    2012 Prius v Review

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    41.4 mpg best and maybe 38 to 40 mpg vs. 61.0 mpg this week.​

    I am not sure which 5 media outlets had the v-5 before I did but they could not have been following the 55 PSL’s here in the Chicago area and were certainly not gliding into red lights ahead to receive the averages as displayed since February :ccry:

    Wayne
     

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