CleanMPG First Drive Review of the 2012 Toyota Prius c

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by xcel, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    As a long-term cumulative average over many fill-ups, I'm finding

    actual/fcd= about 0.948, so far.

    Despite inevitable inconsistencies in the amount of gasoline in the tank between individual fill-ups, that average ratio is so stable by now that it typically changes by 0.002 or less with each update. Some people claim up to about 8% discrepancy, but I doubt they're checking as carefully over as many fills.
  2. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Mine seems to be 5.0-5.2 % pretty consistently( 7-8 tanks so far). Still , it's a bit irritating when you know they COULD make it almost exact if they wanted. I am logging every fill and almost every trip in a notebook I keep in the car. And of course, logging every tank here as well.
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi tribosessive:

    Most aftermarket alloys are not stronger but weaker. I was made aware of this last year when I posted some pics of a Discount Tire store with alloys for $100 on up for all four. A former tire store person said these aftermarket wheels would not meet any crash test safety results that the OEMs demand. The 15" 8-spoke alloys however would be my choice. Probably no weight savings but they look great.

    Love to see another Prius c owner too. What did you and Edwin pay for your cs?

  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Wayne, I have a Liftback Two. I paid $20,900 against a Monroney of $25,250.

    I love the c , but for the number of highway miles I must travel , the Liftback is a bit better. Plus , I can fit my bike inside without any disassembly , which is a sweet bonus.
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  5. tribosessive

    tribosessive Well-Known Member

    TY xcel !! (&Mendell Liesk)

    Gonna stick with my black factory steel rims.
    The wheel covers were immediately donated for the frisbee tournament.
    The magnetic gray with black rims and possible medium-tinted rear windows looks mean.
    I can vouch for the tight turning radius---great for strategic parking.
    I am already developing sensitive toes on the gas pedal for EV mode & hypermiling.

    My final decision was tough !! Golf TDI HB MT was a close second !! Congrats xcel on your recent jaunt across the 48 !!

    -Prius C3.
    -Golf TDI HB MT.
    -HRV CVT.
    -CX3 MT.
    -Scion IM CVT.
    Those were my selections, in order.

    I was greatly disappointed that Colorado/Canyon 4 cylinder diesel will not be available in Access Cab MT. It is just as well. My cargo area needs have diminished somewhat, with a new work landscape.

    BTW, xcel, what is "cs" ??
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2015
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Tribosessive:

    Prius c's <-- cs :)

    Great to hear of your selections. Prius c is an all-around hyper efficient offering without a doubt. Golf TDI is a luxurious appointed fun to drive long distance highway cruiser.

  7. tribosessive

    tribosessive Well-Known Member

    I will use CC @ ~ 53MPH in my frequent highway drives.
    I do not anticipate any problems, most especially with mega-durability, in my Prius C3.

    Frankly, I was going to take the seats out, and enjoy the benefits of reduced weight and increased cargo area.
    However, I was advised that this would make the airbag system go haywire.
    Hey, the Prius C3 is exactly the right tool for my job. I am not driving a school bus, but I must be safe.

    Also, I must have SiriusXM, hence the C3. I am on the road 12 hours a day, 6.5 days a week !!

    I will miss my 2012 Hyundai Elantra Touring, traded in at 317k miles. However, as a subcontractor, buying my own gas, this vehicle will pay for itself---let alone the Green responsibility factor.
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  8. tribosessive

    tribosessive Well-Known Member

    I got very favorable terms. $22,730 without any haggling. This is $1k less than anyone else.
    $1500 trade-in.
    $1250 rebate.
    0.0% // 60 months.
    $2k down.
    No payments for 90 days.
    Color and LRR tires I wanted.
    With CA tax and fees---out the door for $19k +.

    I just listened to the podcast #70.
    "Proper usage of EV mode."
    "84 MPG hwy by xcel."
    Duly noted.

    Decided I didn't like the Focus HB 1.0L MT setup.
    Almost bought a blue 2012 (1.8L !!) Elantra GT MT w/30k mi on it two months ago.:)
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2015
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  9. tribosessive

    tribosessive Well-Known Member

    So, mpg for my first six tanks is 58.5 to 59.2, depending on whether or not I throw out the outlier first tank results. 5% over on my fcd sounds about right.

    I am starting to learn and employ P&G and brake regeneration on down slopes and stopping in traffic. Next up is DWL. Most of my runs have been on highways that are quite flat, to wit SJC to OAK, SJC to SFO, and SJC to MRY (Monterey CA airport).

    I raised my tire pressure to 51 lbs × 4 today. We'll see how much my mpg is raised from ~58.5 mpg.

    Seven days of ownership-1629 miles. The engine will soon be broken in, I will be doing my low viscosity thing, and basic hypermiling will become second nature.

    BTW I do believe Toyota got rid of the noise problems with MY 2015 PriusC. Mine runs very quiet, albeit never over 65 mph. I am convinced it is highway worthy, inspite of the "C" for city, so long as you don't race !
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Tribosessive:


  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    2016 Prius c Updates

    Hi All:

    The 2016 Toyota Prius c brings Toyota Safety Sense-C to the most efficient model in the Prius lineup - sans a plug. A new Persona Series Special Edition is being offered with a black exterior and lime green and cherry red accents.


    Toyota gave the Prius c a major styling and interior upgrade for 2015 so the big news for 2016 is the available Toyota Safety Sense C (TSS-C). This safety package of multiple systems equips the car with Pre-Collision, Lane Departure Assist, and Automatic High Beams. Like the iA, Toyota is targeting a second Top Safety Pick+ rating in the B-segment class and the only manufacturer to do so. It will make the rest of the segment step up their game or forever be left in their wake.

    The Persona Special Edition goes on sale in December and is limited to just 1,500 units. The Persona Special Edition comes exclusively in Black with the contrasting color accents in the lower front grille trim, beneath the headlights and on trim beneath the side windows. The accents also cover the outside power mirrors and interior rear-view mirror shell. It also includes 15-inch black alloys and a custom “Persona Series” badge.

    2016 Toyota Prius c Persona


    The Prius c is offered in four trims, and the Special Edition is built on the Two. That means it’s equipped with extras including fabric-trimmed two-tone seats; 6-way adjustable driver's seat; 60/40 split fold-down rear seats; cruise control, a cargo area cover and engine immobilizer.

    Besides being the most fuel efficient Prius available until the new 2016 Gen 4 Liftback arrives, the Prius c includes standard single LED projector low- and high-beam headlights and LED tail and brake lights. <-- What B-segment offers that upgrade at any price let alone being standard on the Prius c?

  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I love this car , but needed ( okay WANTED) the extra room in the Liftback to carry bicycles. Plus, since most of my driving is highway these days , the little bit better highway fuel economy of the Liftback was worth it. I am seeing a lot of these on the road around here.
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    2016 Toyota Prius c becomes Best Buy’s Geeks Squads Vehicle of Choice

    An armada of Best Buy Technology installers/fixers are about to roll out in Toyota Prius c’s. Their mission: to help people across America get the most from their new technology.

    2016 Toyota Prius in Best Buy Geek Squad Regalia


    Starting today, Best Buy’s Geek Squad will dispatch more than 1,000 of the vehicles – fully decked out as the new Geekmobile – nationwide.

    With more than five million house calls a year, Geek Squad Agents drive an estimated 12.6 million miles each and every year. That’s a lot of fuel, making the hatch’s EPA estimated fuel economy of 53/46/50 mpg city/highway/combined almost a necessity.

    Geek Squad rolled out in 2004 as the first national computer support task force.

    The Prius c’s 17.1 cu. ft. of cargo volume with the seats up and close to 40 with the rear seats folded is spacious enough to carry something as large as a large screen HDTVs to an entire audio system.

    How about we add some recent pricing detail thanks to TrueCar?

    2016 Toyota Prius c pkg. 2 – April 2016 TrueCar price Report

    Expect a $19,500 to $20,000 USD purchase price (not incl. TTL) for a Prius c pkg. 2.​

    Toyota’s tagline for the story?
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  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Good advertising for Toyota hybrids , AND it's gotta be cheaper and more reliable than what they were driving. And the price was sweeter a year ago , when they piled up $4300 on the hood of my Liftback. IIRC , the discount on the c was around $3K then. Still an excellent car , but it doesn't swallow a bicycle as easily as its bigger brother.
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While it has been a while since I have posted about the second most fuel efficient vehicle in the Toyota lineup, 4th gen Prius/Prius Prime being the first, there was a recall on less than 500 of them that was reported to be far more than that number.

    Toyota’s Statement on Prius c Recall Facts

    Toyota commitment to the safety and security of its customers is beyond reproach. As part of that commitment, Toyota extensively monitors field information, investigates identified issues, and takes action to address findings whether minor or major as appropriate. In some instances, this involves issuing voluntary safety recalls.

    On July 2, The LA Times published a story that misrepresents a recent recall filing involving certain Model Year 2018 and 2019 Prius c vehicles as an “expansion” of previous Prius inverter recalls filed in 2014, 2015 and 2018. This is inaccurate and has generated additional misleading reporting.

    Toyota's June 26 Prius c recall filing is a separate and distinct action from previous Prius inverter recalls involving different Prius models. The June 26 recall is intended to address a limited and specific manufacturing issue affecting the DC-DC converter in less than 500 vehicles in the United States. This is a different inverter component unrelated to the subject of the other recalls referenced by the LA Times.

    Toyota has asked the LA Times and other outlets to correct the inaccuracy to avoid customer confusion.

    2019 Toyota Prius c

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  16. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    Still loving my daily driver! Bullet proof car! I wonder if they will build a second gen Aqua in Japan? RIP for USA.
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  17. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    In short, no.
    A Yaris hybrid will likely replace the Aqua. They are two different cars now, and consolidating them will save Toyota cash.
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yabbut Toyota didn't really develop the latest Yaris , and Mazda isn't known for hybrids.
    I don't forsee any Yaris hybrid for NA.
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  19. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    That's only in North America. Small cars are a poor prospect for auto companies here even before the cost of a full hybrid system gets added. Rebadging Mazda2s makes business sense.
    In the rest of the world, the Yaris is an actual Toyota. The current one actually got more advanced valve control before the US Corolla did. They will be getting a new Yaris built on TNGA, and there will be a hybrid option. The Aqua name may continue in Japan, but it will be a Yaris.
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