Discussion in 'Street and Performance Bikes' started by warthog1984, Nov 16, 2009.
Many quadrapegics/parapeigics are motorcycle accident victims - that's no burden on the rest of us?
Check the numbers Chuck, the quadrapegics/parapeigics are RARE in the grand scheme (sans helmet), the vast majority are dead and no burden, if burden is so important. There are lots of permanently debilitated car drivers as well, that were in seatbelts.
This may not be the greatest link but states 37% of paraplegics are road accident victims.
Wish they gave a breakdown on motorcycle with helmet...... vs Car.
I can only guess that helmetless idiots are dead and helmeted may be para/quad but still alive.
Alive is good.
Dead is bad
Dead may be cheaper, don't make the argument that helmeted aren't a burden and helmetless are without proof.
I anticipate we see more of this puzzle with potential universal health care.
Hard to ban smoking if it is found that smokers cost less. When the Government Acounting Office includes all receipts and concludes healthy is expensive and obese is cheap things may get weird. :eyebrow:
Ah, let's not drag extra baggage into this. I specifically mentioned SAFETY equipment before, I did not mention anyone's choice on how to kill themselves by vice. My line in the sand is... we're talking about machines that hurtle down the road at highway speeds. We're talking about a species that seems hell bent on self extermination. We're talking about setting standards of safety so that ALL of us are less of a burden. We're talking about saving someone's father, brother, uncle, aunt, wife, child. I guess what I'm saying is that most often people won't make good decisions unless there's a consequence that hits them in their wallet, even if making the bad decision can lead to their (and others) death.
I'm not for living in a Nanny state, merely that a helmet, a seatbelt, and other safety equipment are to be used (even by the stubborn or stupid) for their own good. If we need to mandate that, so bet it.
Damn...you have a point there.
I just look at helmutless cyclists as organ doners. Their choice, their life.
I still don't see a lot of difference between someone (adult ) choosing to not wear a helmet, and someone ramming fries down their throat. Trust me, you would not want me to be the "it's good for you czar", and I don't like the idea of someone else telling me what to do.
Whether we like it or not, we're told what to do every day. Every single one of us. Most people don't like being told what to do, but every law is there to tell you what you CANNOT do. We can play with words, but that is to an extent telling you what you CAN do.
The bottom line for me is that in Florida I can choose. I suspect that if you lived here, you would, occasionally got for a short ride without one. I'm not playing with words. I'm telling you that as an adult I want to make that choice. If I move to NY, I would comply with the NY laws.
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