CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by tbaleno, Sep 21, 2007.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    Hi All:

    ___If there was ever a thread/review to rip because of the products silliness, this would be it. Although its durability is first rate, the Condensator does nothing and deserves a 0 rating across the board for all the right reasons. I can place a lead brick in the car and it would receive the same rating if you catch my drift ;)

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  2. tbaleno

    tbaleno Well-Known Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    Exactly. In our tests it did nothing. If you put that brick under your gas pedal, it would probably save more gas that this device did.

    The key to these reviews is to look at the value rating. Thats pretty much the assessment of its worthiness to be bought.
     
  3. SlowHands

    SlowHands Hypermiling Ironman

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    Tom, where do you want the 'evaluation unit' sent to?
     
  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    Hi Ken:

    ___The garbage can? :D :D :D

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  5. tbaleno

    tbaleno Well-Known Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    You can pass it on for more testing, but if no one wants it, I don't want it back.
     
  6. voron999

    voron999 New Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    Hey, Guys.

    This thing worked for me as designed - it did capture the sludge as promised. This is the primary function of the jar. Forget the MPG part - not much to it IF you have a decent car in decent working shape.

    Now, if it cost $50, I'd keep it to do just what it supposed to do - capture the blow-by gunk. At $180 benefit of such investment looses its merit. Because you can get or build a good alternative for under $50. It will do the same job just as $180 one.

    BTW: if noone wants that test Condensator unit, I would take it. For a *fair* price. Free is better. :D Do not toss it. It is a good unit, it is just not worth $180.
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2007
  7. DSM1G90

    DSM1G90 New Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    I purchases a Condensator back in Nov of 2006 and installed it on my '90 Mitz Eclipse with the 1.8L motor ( JDM replacement motor). I was getting, on the average, 27mpg before install.

    Now, here we are in Dec of 2007 and have put 14000 miles on that motor, yet my mileage has increase about 2mpg per tankful, which is 13gals. In due actuality, my mileage never changed, even though the bottle is now half full of the black, stinky goo from the blowby that would have gone back into the intake plenum.

    The only attribute that I could only figure out of my gradual increase, along with the Condensator, is that, in the summer of 07, switched over to AMSOIL 5w30 in the crankcase and it seems that the syn oils have more slick than the dino oils have.
     
  8. tbaleno

    tbaleno Well-Known Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    Many here swear by synthetic. I'm sure that and the fact you were trying to get better mileage (why else would you put in a condensator in the first place) so you were more aware of your driving, probably brought up your mileage.
     
  9. Jimmy

    Jimmy Well-Known Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    It, like the "burn water in your vehicle" ad that is seen in this forum, is just a gimmick for the gullible. Forget it. Instead, spend your money on regular maintenance and tune-ups. Drive sensibly - no jack-rabbit starts, no reving the engine, and no trying to be the one at the head of the pack during rush hour. Those are the ways to improve your gas mileage. :)
     
  10. kev

    kev Member

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    Hello to all.
    I must reply to the threads above.Sounds to me like nobody UNDERSTANDS what the condensator is all about.Its ONLY purpose is to elimenate the OIL from the pcv from entering the combustion chamber.It was NOT intended for more mpg's or ANYTHING else.It just so happens that by far less emissions and POSSIBLE mpg gains are a benaficial side effect.I own since new a 94 5.7 chevy pick up.The sticker claimed 13 city 17 hwy.3 years ago it would not pass emissions.Instead of waisting $150 on parts towards a waiver I chose to buy a condensator.It was a gamble that paid off handsomely.Not only did my truck pass with flying colors my mpg's went from an average of 8 mpg's to 16.I have the Pa emissions reports for the last 13 years to prove the fall and sudden rise in performance.I have since fine tuned this little beauty to improve the overall performance and mpg's.One trick was pullin the o2 sensor out of the mainstream of exhaust with a drilled out sparkplug nonfouler.This worked well in conjunction with removing the fresh air intake for the pcv system from the air cleaner/TBI spacer/adaptor.To see the truck is to see its very well maintained overall and under the hood.I normally tuned it up every year so it would pass.The cat went at 125k miles and I replaced it just before I bought my condensator.With a full tuneup and a new cat it still failed.The cat was $250 alone.I havent tuned it up in 3 yrs and it still runs excellent.I still have to keep up on oil changes and air filters but tune ups are far less often.The engine internally is clean as well because the carbon deposits are decreasing as to increasing without a condensator.If theres anyone who wants to dispute this then bring it.This thing has allready spent alot of time in the court system and has been proven as a FACT that the condensator truely works.It is also a FACT that engine oil wasnt meant to burn.For those who have a condensator, dump the cup of gook or whatever you guys call it into a pan and try to lite it.Wont lite?Now dump the same amount of gas in that same pan of gook and Ill bet the farm it will lite right up.Theres your proof right there.For those so inclined to better your milage, instead of cryin about not knowing what your talkin about, try figuring a way around the ecm system so you can use a fuel supliment like hydrogen wich is a unlimited free fuel source.The narrow band width in the o2 sensors are whats keepin free source at bay.Until some genius finds a way around it were all stuck with what Detroit and Japan have to offer wich aint much seeins the U.S patent office holds over 900 patented carbs that get over 200mpg's.Go figure?
     
  11. SlowHands

    SlowHands Hypermiling Ironman

    Re: CleanMPG Reviews The Condensator.

    kev, I don't necessarily doubt that it has appeared to work for you. Your comment regarding what the Condensator is all about gives me pause to think: why pay the huge price for a 'brand name' Condensator when you can rig up a jar and hoses for about a 1/10 of the price?

    Two of us here tried it on several different vehicles, and didn't end up with anything in the collector jar. No difference in fuel economy over several thousand miles, and in one case, possibly worse FE with the device attached.

    Just because the patent office has lots of filings for 200 mpg carbs doesn't mean that they actually work.

    I believe you could still do better in your truck by making some changes in your driving techniques. Our Guzzler is EPA rated nearly the same as your truck, actually 1 mpg less for highway, and yet without any special gadgets and trick fuel additives I can generally get 20-22 mpg for extended highway trips. Something to think about.
     
  12. kev

    kev Member

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    slowhands,If you like homemade looking contraptions sitting under your hood, thats your perogative.I happen to be a profesional who likes profesional apperance as well as performance, not mickey mouse stuff.The emmisions tests were not going to be performed until I explained to the mechanic the device was going to change his mind.Its illegal to alter emissions equiptment in my area. The mpg increase and savings in that increase in my aplication paid for the unit in 3 fillups.So my inspection mechanic and I like the profesional look of the install wich looks factory.

    As for empty collector jars, new cars have tighter clearances (not much blowby if any).You never stated how old your test vehicles are like I did.How about the fresh air intake for the pcv system on your test vehicles? If fresh air is to feed the pcv, then why is the tubing of the "fresh air intake" loaded with the same crap that the tube coming from the pcv valve is full of???Its the sign of a failing or sticking pcv valve. Most car makers have conveniently pluged the fresh air intake tube directly into the airbox or airfilter wich is plumbed directly into the combustion chamber. This way when the pcv valve fails the engine still receives its healthy dose of oil giving you excellent emissions.(what a joke)Its just another example of how poorly cars are designed.God forbid we make a car that last's to long.

    As for the "no difference in fuel economy", you simply missed the point of this device,,,again.It aint suposed to give better mpg's.Its designed to let cleaner oxygen get to your lungs and brain so that you may think clearly before you post critisism on something that does work, just not how you wish it would work.

    I appologise for not mentioning that I tow a 17 ft speedboat all summer and 2 snowmobiles all winter and the milage I refered to was while towing.

    If you want to pinch pennies and have serious mechanics laugh at your cheap imitations thats your perogative.I on the other hand want to let the inventor know how much I truely apriciate his invention.I think the world should thank him for helping to clean up the mess that our car makers have made.
     
  13. kev

    kev Member

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    Im sorry,

    I also forgot to mention that our lovely car makers have not only caught wind of the condensator but are trying to by the patend so we cant get one.They failed at their feeble atempt so now their designing the "encapsulated pcv system". Look it up and you will find this to be true.For those of you who dont understand, this means the pcv system has become strictly internal and unaccesable from the exteirior of the engine as we know it.Gee I wonder why they did that???
     
  14. FosterVS

    FosterVS New Member

    SAVE YOUR MONEY! If I understand it, this device goes between your PCV valve and intake? I want to show you what I installed, 2 of a similar setup for less than 1/2 the price.

    I purchased the main units from a company in Canada called "Princess Auto". I don't believe they have stores in the USA. What I purchased was an inline filter for air compressors. I bought these two when they were on sale, for $15 each. You will have to purchase the fittings and some good hose to plumb them in. Below is them installed on my 1999 Dodge Durango.
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    The left unit is between the PCV valve and intake. I also have a line from right valve cover to intake manifold, so I installed one in that line as well.

    Here is left unit
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    Opening left unit, haven't cleaned for a while
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    Wow, nice collection of "goo", cup is about 1/2 full, probably 3 months worth
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    Cleaned and a new bunch of "dessicant" installed
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    Bag of dessicant. The idea is, the dessicant both condenses the non-flammable oil, etc into liquid, as well as absorbing any water vapor. You can find this stuff at an RV parts place.
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    Cup from right device, not much residue
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    Picture of filter section of device
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    I have a similar device installed on my 2001 Pontiac Sunfire, which has collected zero residue in the cup.

    Bottom line is, I cannot give you exact before and after mileage increase. It does seem to give me about 1-2 mpg better mileage. However, other Durango owners are amazed with the mileage I am getting.
     
  15. tomcatld127

    tomcatld127 New Member

    Kev: I am with you on the idea of filtering what goes to the intake. I put the Condensator on 2007 Hyundai Entourage minivan. It did not do miracles for MPG's, but made a spunky engine quite a bit more so. It also collects plenty of oily sludge. I use Royal Purple synthetic oil, and tried to drive more sensible than not when I first installed the thing, so I got some encouragement. I drive fairly reasonable now, but MPG's vary between 18.8 and 22.5. (80% highway, significant idling with A/C on). It could be that I could do just as well with a deal as shown above. I may want to do that for my daughter's 2003 GMC pickup, with the 4.8 liter V8.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2008
  16. nimo

    nimo New Member

    what is the name of this unit FosterVS
     

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