2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime – Powerful and 39-miles of All-Electric Range!

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] What happens when you take the best CUV Hybrid available and add 39-miles of all-electric range? Oh boy!

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – November 20, 2019

    2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV-39


    Los Angeles, CA -- The fifth-generation Toyota RAV4, on the market for barely a year, will soon be available as a super plug-in with 39-miles of all-electric range and an estimated system output of 302 hp powering an advanced AWD with sport-tuned suspension and exclusive design features.

    Can you provide those specs one more time? How about a projected 39-miles of range from the plug, 90 MPGe rating, and 0-60 time of just 5.8 seconds – 2 seconds faster than the current RAV4 Hybrid - will push the RAV4 brand far beyond its competitors. As the hottest selling CUV and HEV in the country, the Prime raises the bar to the sky.

    With more powerful motor-generators, a newly developed high-capacity Li-Ion battery and a booster converter, the 2021 RAV4 Prime provides an 83 hp jump in total system output over the RAV4 Hybrid.

    The 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime will arrive in the summer of 2020 in SE and XSE trims. SE is new for the RAV4 Prime, and the XSE is currently exclusive to the RAV4 Hybrid. The SE includes 18” alloys and an exclusive front grille design and front lower spoiler. Piano black exterior accents and a painted grille/diffuser complete the premium look.

    Inside it will include standard heated front seats, 8-way power driver’s seat with lumbar adjustment, 7-in. Multi-Information Display, Blind Spot Monitor, a leather steering wheel and shift knob with red stitching, power liftgate, and Audio with 8” touch-screen and Amazon Alexa, as well as Android Auto and Apple CarPlay compatibility. The available Weather & Moonroof Package lets in the sun, moon and stars while keeping the cold at bay with a heated steering wheel, heated rear outboard seats, and windshield wiper de-icer, while rain-sensing windshield wipers add to convenience.

    The XSE Prime includes a two-tone exterior paint scheme pairing a black roof with select colors, including Supersonic Red. 19” alloys have a unique two-tone design. Vertical LED accent lights give the XSE a distinct look, while the optional Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) with headlamp auto-leveling partially aims the beams into turns as the driver steers.

    2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV-39


    Inside, the XSE adds paddle shifters, moonroof, unique SofTex synthetic leather seat surfaces, Qi wireless smartphone charging, ambient lighting, auto-dimming rearview with integrated garage door opener and the largest multimedia screen in any RAV4 ever. The standard Audio Plus system comes with a 9” touch-screen and there is an available Premium Audio that includes Dynamic Navigation and JBL speaker system.

    A Premium Package for the RAV4 Prime XSE adds Premium Audio with Dynamic Navigation and JBL speakers, perforated and ventilated SofTex front seats, RAV4’s first head-up display, heated rear SofTex outboard seats, heated steering wheel, panoramic moonroof, digital rear-view mirror, memory driver’s seat, 4-way power passenger seat, 5-door SmartKey system, kick-type power rear liftgate, Bird’s Eye View Monitor.

    2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV-39 Drivetrain

    The RAV4 Prime uses a differently tuned version of the RAV4 Hybrid’s heavily atkinsonized 2.5L I4 gas engine. It produces the same projected 176 hp as in the hybrid, but paired with the electric motors, total system output equals 302 hp.

    The RAV4 Prime’s passenger space isn’t compromised by the larger Li-Ion battery, as it is mounted under the floor. The mounting position also gives the RAV4 Prime a low center of gravity and enhanced driving stability.

    The RAV4 Prime’s enhanced heat pump HVAC system, based on Prius Prime’s and tailored to fit RAV4 Prime, contributes to an increasing EV range, as energy consumption for cabin temperature control can significantly decrease EV driving range.

    The RAV4 Prime employs the same version of Electronic On-Demand All-Wheel Drive (AWD) as the RAV4 Hybrid. In both models, a separate rear-mounted electric motor powers the rear wheels when needed, including proactively on acceleration startup and also in reduced-traction conditions.

    The AWD system also reduces understeer during cornering for enhanced steering stability. Off-pavement, AWD enhances hill-climbing performance. A driver-selectable Trail mode makes it possible to get unstuck by braking a spinning wheel and sending torque to the grounding wheel.

    With available paddle shifters, the driver can “downshift” to increase the regenerative braking in steps, which fosters greater control when driving in hilly areas, for example.

    As on the RAV4 Hybrid, the innovative Predictive Efficient Drive feature acts like an invisible “hyper-miler” co-driver. Using the available navigation system, Predictive Efficient Drive essentially reads the road and learns driver patterns to optimize hybrid battery charging and discharging operations based on driving conditions. The system accumulates data as the vehicle is driven and “remembers” road features such as hills and stoplights and adjusts the hybrid powertrain operation to maximize efficiency.

    All Toyota RAV4 models come equipped with standard Toyota Safety Sense (TSS 2.0), which groups a long roster of active-safety technologies and capabilities:
    • Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection (PCS w/PD)
    • Full-Speed Range Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (DRCC)
    • Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist (LDA w/SA)
    • Automatic High Beam (AHB)
    • Lane Tracing Assist (LTA)
    • Road Sign Assist (RSA)
    The XSE Premium Package adds Rear Cross Traffic Braking (RCTB) and Front and Rear Parking Assist with Automated Braking (PA w/AB).

    Starting with the 2020 model year, every Toyota Hybrid Battery Warranty has been increased from 8 years or 100,000 miles to 10 years from original date of first use, or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first.

    2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV-39 Early Conclusions

    After helping my parents acquire a 2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid XLE just 2 nights ago and still awaiting to hear if the local dealership can trade for what they want, my push was to wait for the RAV4 PHEV. My wife is currently waiting to get out of her Sonata Hybrid for the RAV4 PHEV as well. If I were a betting person, I suspect the RAV4, RAV4 Hybrid, and RAV4 PHEV will see sales exceeding 40k units per month here in the U.S. thanks in part to the Prime's $7.5k Fed TC and $1.5k CA State Sales Tax Rebate. While every other OEM has chased either Hybrids or BEVs - mostly an unprofitable ordeal for most to put it lightly, Toyota has taken the long approach. Meaning making profits on their Hybrid lineup for well over a decade. Moving to the PHEV, from the first Gen 3 Prius to the Prime, they are game changers with the lowest TCOs in the history of the automobile due in part to the most efficient drivetrains in the industry. The RAV4 Hybrid and now upcoming RAV4 Prime is no different. Coming from the land of $4 gasoline, electrification via HEV, PHEV or BEVs are a big deal. Plug-ins offer a lower price of entry than a BEV without the inconvenience and after the Fed TCs - which will run out soon if demand for the RAV4 Prime reaches levels I suspect, will cost less than the std. Hybrids from which they are based. A win for the consumer who will use much less fuel and a win for Toyota in that they have a profitable electrification strategy that is a continuation if what they started going all the way back to 1997 when the first gen Prius was introduced to the public in Japan.

    I cannot wait. :)
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  2. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    These will be all over California. Hell, you might even see 'em in Texas.

    pricing will be where? ... around $34,500? ... would be decent if you can take the full $7,500 tax credit
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
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  3. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Great range:). Any idea on battery size? It probably would qualify for close to the max $7,500 tax credit. It might even be better deal than the hybrid depending what they'll ask.
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Carcus:

    I suspect Toyota will set the price of the 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime SE at approximately $35,000 and the XSE around $39,995 as a guess?

    Luke, it will indeed be a full $7,500 Tax Credit sized pack. Toyota is going to run out of their Tax Credits with this one once released.

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  5. Erdrick

    Erdrick Well-Known Member

    Crap... wish I could have waited to get this instead of my wife’s Camry hybrid.
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  6. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Let's hope Toyota builds enough of these and the hybrid... It would be nice to see the ratio of hybrid & plug-in to ICE models improve.
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bill:

    I suspect the 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime just like the Prius Prime will take up a significant percentage of RAV4/Prius sales. Time will tell. What worries me most is the first few months of "Market Value Adjustment" BS that Toyota and Acura dealerships love to screw people over with.

    This will be a great summer to watch for sure!

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  8. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    My god they are going to kill every competitor with this! Nobody stands a chance, they are all doomed! 1 crucial piece of data left, how much can it tow??
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi George:

    It will offer a class leading payload and tow cap of 2,450 and 16,250 lbs respectively while offering what off-road enthusiasts expect from a... Whoops, that was a recent Pickup truck post I was working on. ;)

    I would guess 1,750 lbs like the current RAV4 Hybrid?

    I am still concerned about price as that could put a dent in its acceptance despite the fact the world needs a lot more plug-ins.

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  10. SI_Prius

    SI_Prius Well-Known Member

    Price point will be crucial for sales numbers, If they price it $7k over the hybrid version, then we have a winner.

    There was a leak on Toyota Canada site, 17.8 kWh battery. From the PR alone you can calculate that usable capacity must be around 15 kWh.
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  11. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    If they stay with the Prius prime battery plan --

    Pouch cell lithium ion
    Conservatively voltage "capped" bottom is about 3.4v, .. top is about 4.0v (vs. previous industry/Tesla standard of about 3.0 to 4.2)
    Conservative charge rate of about .5c (i.e. 2 hour charge from min to max)

    Battery warranty 10/150,000 -- that's good
    Curb weight guess(?) -- 4400-ish -- that's heavy (if I'm guessing correctly, that's about 1,000 pounds heavier than the "conventional" competition (i.e. Honda CR-V about 3,400 lbs.)

    /is the qualification for fed tax credit based off of "installed capacity" or (conservative BMS regulated) "usable capacity"?
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2019
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  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Carcus:

    If there is any OEM that would push a conservative design, control, and build onto the public, that would be Toyota.

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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A few more details - this time on the Toyota consumer site - are being revealed slowly.

    A Driver's Space -- The 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime's cabin was designed to help keep you in control. An available all-new 9-in. multimedia display places your entertainment, maps and more at front and center. The 2021 RAV4 Prime comes standard with Amazon Alexa, Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, plus an optional Heads-Up Display (HUD).

    2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV-39


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  14. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    The RAV4 - like almost every model sold - keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

    Sigh ...
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  15. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Americans, like almost every model born - keep getting bigger and bigger & bigger.
    The manufacturers are looking for repeat customers & grow their products to entice those same (but larger) people back to familiar named vehicles.

    P.S. Because of the above, who thinks the small Kia Niro & Hyundai Kona will get bigger & bigger & bigger?
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2020
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  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I hope not. The Niro is just the right size now( Kona is too tall ).
    Chevy offers SUV/CUV's in six sizes.
    Hyundai , probably almost as many.
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  17. litesong

    litesong litesong

    If I had a Kona, I'd put taller tires on it & make it even taller. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Kona is so high in the sky.
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  18. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    If they can keep the 1,750 lb tow capacity rating and the price in the low 30's ... this is going to be a huge seller. Every other OEM ought to be nervous over this one.
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  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Carcus:

    I think they are!

    Hyundai is bringing out a Tucson PHEV of unknown range and larger than the Kona, Ford will be releasing their Escape PHEV-30+ soon, and once Honda has released their CR-V HEV, the PHEV is probably less than a year behind.

    2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime

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    With a full $7,500 Fed TC and State incentives, anything under $40k for the XSE and it buries everybody. The problem with that is Toyota dealerships will be taking advantage with markup BS for the first 6-months until the rest have released theirs.

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    Trollbait Well-Known Member

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