Discussion in 'Nissan' started by Ford Man, Oct 10, 2019.
Wish I could get some of those "free" miles. I have to pay for all of mine.
Yeah, I guess they're really not free miles but extra miles I wouldn't be getting at the same cost if I drove like everyone else and got EPA combined rating.
Forcing a vehicle to burn that much fuel would be tough work, methinks.
The 339.251 gallons I've used in the Versa over 16633.1 miles would have lasted less than 4,000 miles in the '76 Lincoln Mark IV I had in the early '90's. I had to work my butt off to get between 10-11 MPG in it unless it was on the highway. On the highway if I'd keep my speed down to about 55 I could squeeze 14 MPG out of it. Guess you can't expect too much out of a 2 1/2 ton car with a 460 4BBL.
Did the development of a skinny butt, raise your MPG?
Around the mid-'70s were the worst years for fuel economy, especially of US cars. A few years earlier or later, even a car that huge with an engine that huge would be less thirsty---and more powerful besides.
Yeah, I bought a new '77 Buick Regal with a 350 2BBL. When I first got it it would only get about 12 MPG and had a flat spot where it just fell on it's face on take off. I took the vacuum hose off the EGR valve, plugged it with the eraser off of a mechanical pencil and put it back on, the mileage went to about 15-16 MPG and the flat spot was gone.
Filled up again today and the mileage was down for some reason. This tank only got 50.171 MPG. For some reason it seemed I could never get the mileage up in the 52-53 range on this tank. When I went to fill up today I found that the station in town with E/0 was only $ .04 a gallon more than the cheapest E/10 in town so I filled up with E/0 to see if it seems to make a difference in this car or not. The last car I tried E/0 in several years ago I saw no noticeable improvement. The dashboard computer on the Versa is always several MPG optimistic so I wanted to find out if the use of E/10 is the contributor to that or not. New stats are:
Fuel Cost $736.32
Cost Mile .0430
Ave. MPG 49.060
G. Saved 154.541
Free Miles 5254.4
Tank +47.654% EPA
So far I don't know what to make of the E/0. Recently the factory computer has been being about 5-7 MPG optimistic on E/10. My normal knock around car is down right now so I'm driving the Versa daily and have put about 140 miles on this tank so far. The Ultra Gauge is reporting similar numbers to what I normally saw with E/10 but the factory computer is reporting 8-9 MPG above the Ultra Gauge. It would be great if the factory computer was accurate because it usually reports 55-60 MPG on every tank.
After 400+ miles on this tank of E/0 I'm pretty sure the mileage is slightly better on E/0 than E/10. The Ultra Gauge is reading about 1 MPG better than my previous tank which is within the realm of possibility even if I were using E/10 but my regular daily driver has been down waiting for a part to come in so this tank has many more short trips of 2-5 miles than normal. There has also been a fair amount of windy conditions and some cooler weather and has been used to take my wife to and from work which isn't a great section of road for MPG. If priced within $ .05-$.10 a gallon of E/10 and I'm using this car in it's normal sense it's probably worth the extra expense but at the $.20-$.30 a gallon premium they usually charge I don't think I'd make up the cost in MPG. The factory computer is usually 5-7 MPG above the Ultra Gauge this tank the factory computer is reading about 9 mpg above the Ultra Gauge. I'll be filling up again within a 100 miles so we'll see then just what the E/0 has done.
Filled up and the E/0 got about 1.5 MPG better than the Ultra Gauge was reporting. Lately with E/10 the Ultra Gauge had been within +/- .5 MPG with E/0 it came up 1.5 MPG low. Mileage was up 3.12 MPG from the previous tank but the previous tank was the lowest I'd had in several months. Considering I was using this car for all my driving with several trips of 2-5 miles, some cooler weather and windy weather I'm confident the E/0 was beneficial on this tank. I'm thinking I can at least break even money wise using E/0 as long as price doesn't exceed an extra $ .10 per gallon. Once I get back to using the car as it's usually used if I can catch E/0 at near the price of E/10 I'll run another tank to see how it does on this car's normal driving routine. Hopefully I can better figure out where my break even point is price wise. Using E/0 the factory computer was still 7.3 MPG optimistic. Here's my new stats:
Fuel Cost $760.17
Cost Mile .0431
Ave. MPG 49.173
Tank MPG 53.290
G. Saved 159.956
Free Miles 5438.5
Tank +56.735% EPA
This week I've still been waiting on a part for my knock around daily driver so I decided to get the '97 Escort station wagon out of the garage and drive it this week. The part I'm waiting on is a split boot for a CV joint. I bought a Dorman branded one at Auto Zone a few weeks ago and it was torn up before I finished installation. Every time I touched it it would tear or a hole would break though it. No one has another brand without ordering one from England so that's what the hold up is. Tracking shows it's in Chicago but has just been sitting there for about 1 1/2 weeks. I decided I'd rather wait on a split boot from England than pull the axle and put a one piece boot on it. The wagon is 24 years old and has less than 42K miles so I though a little exercise would do it good. The gas had been in it since about Dec. or Jan. so I finished running that tank out and put in a fresh tank this afternoon. When I filled up I checked fuel mileage and was pleasantly surprised with 39.4 MPG. I've got better mileage in it on highway trips in the past but I don't remember ever getting that good in local driving. When I filled up last time it was in a neighboring town that I seldom visit and I can't remember what the brand name of the station was where I got the gas but I remember it was a brand that I've never purchased before. Today it got filled with E/0 all the other stations in town had increased their price so I actually got E/0 for $ .10 less per gallon than E/10 was at other stations. I'll have to see if it does better on E/0 than E/10 since I don't remember ever running E/0 in it before.
I finally got the CV boot for my daily driver Saturday and got it installed today. If anyone ever needs a split boot don't even bother with one of the Dorman boots. It will take a few weeks to get it from England but buy a Bailcast CVS18 universal boot. I had to trim mine to fit so the piece I trimmed off I glued together using the supplied glue. Pulling as hard as I could the material didn't tear nor did the glue joint break.
I'm curious whether anyone else has ever noticed better MPG on a clean freshly waxed car. I cleaned the Versa the other day and put a fresh coat of wax on it. First wash/wax since last fall. A few days later I drove it on one of the sections of road that I don't usually see any increase in MPG on. On that single trip of about 22 miles I saw the tank MPG increase by about 0.5 MPG and with all the driving (approximately 75 miles) since the wash/wax it has increased about 1.2 MPG. This isn't the first car I've owned that I've noticed this on. The Ultra Gauge is currently showing about 53.5 MPG one of the best tank averages I've seen in recent months. Normally this time of year I'd contribute that to warmer temperatures but, so far this spring our temperatures have been well below normal for this time of year.
Sorry, I have no facts to contribute.
Lastest fill up, NEW ALL TIME RECORD. 459.4 miles, 8.218 gallons, 55.902MPG. This tank really surprised me given it's not really been extremely warm for this time of year. My last record high was during hot weather late last summer. Newest stats:
Fuel Cost $782.02
Cost Mile .0432
Ave. MPG 49.324
Tank MPG 55.902
G. Saved 165.250
Free Miles 5618.5
Tank +64.417% EPA
Good work , Ford Man.
Woah, that rocks man!
I did it again! Last tank was a new all time record at 55.902 MPG but, it only held for 1 month. I filled up again today 485.7 miles, 8.548 gallons, 56.820 MPG. In a few more tanks I should have my all time average MPG above 50 MPG. Most of the driving on this tank was on country 2 lane roads usually in the 40 MPH range. They say thinner synthetic oils are better for MPG. I wonder if I'd be getting any better MPG if I were running 0w20 synthetic instead of my usual conventional10w40? I may be wrong but I don't think there would be much if any increase with lighter oil. I've got some 10w30 synthetic in the garage but I have several cases of conventional that I've had for years that needs to be used first. Years ago when I worked construction and drove 35-50K miles a year I'd buy a few cases of oil and oil filters every time I caught them on sale because I was changing oil every few weeks. In Jan. 2000 I got hurt and ended up having to go on disability. Now I only drive about 20K a year. None of my cars take more than 4 quarts per oil change and I've increased my oil change interval so there's probably more oil in my garage than I'll use the rest of my life. Just to give an idea of how old this oil is I'm still doing oil/filter changes for under $5 each. When I bought the Versa I ordered a dozen oil filters from Rock Auto for $2 each including shipping costs and I have lots of filters for my Escorts that I've bought at flea markets, store closeouts, yard sales etc. for $1 or less each. Here are my new stats.
Fuel Cost $804.92
Cost Mile .0433
Ave. MPG 49.494
Tank MPG 56.820
G. Saved 170.987
Free Miles 5813.6
Tank +67.119% EPA
Excellent ! My Civic won't touch that number.
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