2016 Toyota Prius First Drive Review - First Drive Results

Discussion in 'Toyota Prius Family' started by xcel, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    I believe that the Prius, even though the EPA is higher for the Ioniq Hybrid, the Prius is still the winner. Also there is a lot more maintainence cost with the Ioniq, with the mandatory drive belt change every 75,000 miles, and serpentine belt as well. Prius has no belts what so ever, even the Prius engine has a metal chain drive system which requires no replacement interval.

    Now when it comes to a beauty contest I have to admit the Ioniq wins over the Prius.
     
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Alster:

    Regarding the efficiency, Prius probably reigns. Regarding the looks, IONIQ is definitely a better looking vehicle.

    Wayne
     
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  3. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    That's a dubious "win," as far as long-term costs. Have you checked the prices of the electric coolant pump or electric compressor? Or what happens to the engine when the pump stops working? They don't last forever.
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Redyylc94:

    Prius electric pumps and compressors have stood the test of time with many owners going well into the 300 and 400k range without any of those major electro-mechanical failings. Ford's and Chevrolet's have experienced more than there fair share of those pump and compressor failures. Toyota's, not so much.

    Wayne
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    HI All:

    A quick vid showing the 2017 Toyota Prius Four Touring's main highlight with something you and I will probably never see again. It did get cut off mid-stream and I continued on in a second short addition with my number one and two shortfall(s).


    Wayne
     
  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Where it got cut off to the end. A few harsh words to fix the Prius' shortcomings but they are not hard fixes either.


    Wayne
     
  7. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    The motor/generator serpentine belt is the only drive belt on the Ioniq. I don't know its cost, but I'll bet it's cheaper than the 12V lead-acid battery that Prius owners must replace which the Ioniq doesn't have. The Niro/Ioniq Kappa 1.6 engines have chain driven cams and hydraulic lifters. No maintenance there. To determine total maintenance costs would require a detailed parts cost analysis and their failure rates. Nobody knows that yet for the Ioniq/Niro. However, the most expensive part of the Ioniq, the traction battery, has a lifetime warranty.
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Moving into the second decade of the twenty first century, the Prius lineup received a few upgrades. The vertical taillamps have been toned down with more horizontal units, the headlamps have been changed to thinner surrounds, the white plastic interior trim was finally removed in 2018 IIRC, and the trim walk from Two and Two Eco to Four Touring has been normalized to the rest of the Toyota lineup with L Eco, LE, XLE, and Limited.

    2020 Toyota Prius Limited

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    At the Sears Tower in Chicago on a cold and night.​

    We have driven a number of Prius' in our day but this is the first time I was able to spend some time with the Limited.

    The Limited trim includes the Premium Audio with Integrated Navigation and JBL® — 11.6-in. touchscreen with split-screen display, AM/FM cache radio, HD Radio, 10 speakers with amplifier, USB media port, 2 USB charge ports, advanced voice recognition, hands-free phone capability and music streaming via Bluetooth wireless technology, Siri Eyes Free, Apple CarPlay, Amazon Alexa compatible, Predictive Traffic and Doppler Weather overlay, and SiriusXM.

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    11.6 infotainment screen.​

    As we experienced from its intro, the screen action is very fast to the touch. The larger screen is at first look, a cumbersome addition from a design standpoint but after a few minutes, it is actually nice to have such a large screen. However, there is no buttons to control anything other than the wheel so you will live and die by those wheel controls. There is still no Android Auto and the GPS is as archaic as ever forcing drivers to walk through multiple menus to get to a destination if it can understand the destination at all va stating the location and it creates the map for display. The same with texts. A flash screen pops up stating a text has arrived and disappears. No read back, request to reply via voice, read back the reply, and accept for send. Control Pandora or Spotify via voice? It has no idea what those are unfortunately. :(

    The high end audio system audio quality is fine but is not going to win any awards.

    2020 Toyota Prius Limited

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    The 27.4 cu. ft. of cargo volume is one of its best attributes.​

    The ability to swallow up multiple suitcases and whatever else you want to squeeze in there is where it separates itself from any sedan.

    Something else that was a first in a Press or new automobile purchase I have not seen before. This warning label was fixed across the map lights and meant to be removed by the owner.

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    Data transmission warning.​

    And of course what the Prius does best. Maybe 20 short starts and stops, and four 50+ mile drives to the IL.WI border and back. provides maybe 55 to 57 mpg vs the 60.9 mpg indicated over 254 miles.

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    This 2020 Toyota Prius Limited retailed at $33,763 with everything Toyota offers and there is a $750 rebate in most states to knock that down a bit. And that is where another shortcoming is found. You can purchase a number of 45+ mpg Hybrids with better std. or optional equipment, better seating and comfort, and even more performance for a lot less. While its panache is all but used up as Prius sales languish, it is still the go to automobile for low total cost of ownership, low emissions, and especially low fuel consumption.

    Wayne
     

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