2016 Toyota Prius First Drive Review - First Drive Results

Discussion in 'Toyota Prius Family' started by xcel, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    I believe that the Prius, even though the EPA is higher for the Ioniq Hybrid, the Prius is still the winner. Also there is a lot more maintainence cost with the Ioniq, with the mandatory drive belt change every 75,000 miles, and serpentine belt as well. Prius has no belts what so ever, even the Prius engine has a metal chain drive system which requires no replacement interval.

    Now when it comes to a beauty contest I have to admit the Ioniq wins over the Prius.
     
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Alster:

    Regarding the efficiency, Prius probably reigns. Regarding the looks, IONIQ is definitely a better looking vehicle.

    Wayne
     
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  3. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    That's a dubious "win," as far as long-term costs. Have you checked the prices of the electric coolant pump or electric compressor? Or what happens to the engine when the pump stops working? They don't last forever.
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Redyylc94:

    Prius electric pumps and compressors have stood the test of time with many owners going well into the 300 and 400k range without any of those major electro-mechanical failings. Ford's and Chevrolet's have experienced more than there fair share of those pump and compressor failures. Toyota's, not so much.

    Wayne
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    HI All:

    A quick vid showing the 2017 Toyota Prius Four Touring's main highlight with something you and I will probably never see again. It did get cut off mid-stream and I continued on in a second short addition with my number one and two shortfall(s).


    Wayne
     
  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Where it got cut off to the end. A few harsh words to fix the Prius' shortcomings but they are not hard fixes either.


    Wayne
     
  7. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    The motor/generator serpentine belt is the only drive belt on the Ioniq. I don't know its cost, but I'll bet it's cheaper than the 12V lead-acid battery that Prius owners must replace which the Ioniq doesn't have. The Niro/Ioniq Kappa 1.6 engines have chain driven cams and hydraulic lifters. No maintenance there. To determine total maintenance costs would require a detailed parts cost analysis and their failure rates. Nobody knows that yet for the Ioniq/Niro. However, the most expensive part of the Ioniq, the traction battery, has a lifetime warranty.
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Moving into the second decade of the twenty first century, the Prius lineup received a few upgrades. The vertical taillamps have been toned down with more horizontal units, the headlamps have been changed to thinner surrounds, the white plastic interior trim was finally removed in 2018 IIRC, and the trim walk from Two and Two Eco to Four Touring has been normalized to the rest of the Toyota lineup with L Eco, LE, XLE, and Limited.

    2020 Toyota Prius Limited

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    At the Sears Tower in Chicago on a cold and night.​

    We have driven a number of Prius' in our day but this is the first time I was able to spend some time with the Limited.

    The Limited trim includes the Premium Audio with Integrated Navigation and JBL® — 11.6-in. touchscreen with split-screen display, AM/FM cache radio, HD Radio, 10 speakers with amplifier, USB media port, 2 USB charge ports, advanced voice recognition, hands-free phone capability and music streaming via Bluetooth wireless technology, Siri Eyes Free, Apple CarPlay, Amazon Alexa compatible, Predictive Traffic and Doppler Weather overlay, and SiriusXM.

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    11.6 infotainment screen.​

    As we experienced from its intro, the screen action is very fast to the touch. The larger screen is at first look, a cumbersome addition from a design standpoint but after a few minutes, it is actually nice to have such a large screen. However, there is no buttons to control anything other than the wheel so you will live and die by those wheel controls. There is still no Android Auto and the GPS is as archaic as ever forcing drivers to walk through multiple menus to get to a destination if it can understand the destination at all va stating the location and it creates the map for display. The same with texts. A flash screen pops up stating a text has arrived and disappears. No read back, request to reply via voice, read back the reply, and accept for send. Control Pandora or Spotify via voice? It has no idea what those are unfortunately. :(

    The high end audio system audio quality is fine but is not going to win any awards.

    2020 Toyota Prius Limited

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    The 27.4 cu. ft. of cargo volume is one of its best attributes.​

    The ability to swallow up multiple suitcases and whatever else you want to squeeze in there is where it separates itself from any sedan.

    Something else that was a first in a Press or new automobile purchase I have not seen before. This warning label was fixed across the map lights and meant to be removed by the owner.

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    Data transmission warning.​

    And of course what the Prius does best. Maybe 20 short starts and stops, and four 50+ mile drives to the IL.WI border and back. provides maybe 55 to 57 mpg vs the 60.9 mpg indicated over 254 miles.

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    This 2020 Toyota Prius Limited retailed at $33,763 with everything Toyota offers and there is a $750 rebate in most states to knock that down a bit. And that is where another shortcoming is found. You can purchase a number of 45+ mpg Hybrids with better std. or optional equipment, better seating and comfort, and even more performance for a lot less. While its panache is all but used up as Prius sales languish, it is still the go to automobile for low total cost of ownership, low emissions, and especially low fuel consumption.

    Wayne
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    5 Things to Know About the 2021 Toyota Prius

    Hi All:

    While I have focused a lot of or all of my attention to the Prius Prime over the past 3 years, the std. Prius did receive some upgrades over those same years. Most importantly, RCTA and BSM was added to the FCW, Auto braking, RCC, LKA, Sign recognition, and Auto Dimming headlamps.

    For 2021, a blacked-out edition called the 2020 Edition is being added. Yeah, the naming convention needs work but it does look pretty cool.

    2021 Toyota Prius – “The 2020 Edition”

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    It has been nearly 20 years since the Prius was introduced to the American market as Toyota’s first production hybrid. In 2001, the Prius appealed mostly to nature nerds. Today, it is decidedly mainstream, with almost 2 million models sold in the United States. It’s sleeker, safer and more technologically advanced than ever before, while still meeting its mission to reduce the car’s environmental mark as it travels from point A to B and beyond.

    So, with Toyota rolling out its 2021 version — with a limited number of “2020 Editions”

    New Look

    Just because Prius drivers want to reduce their carbon footprint doesn’t mean they don’t consider style. With the special 2020 Prius commemorating the 20-year anniversary, 2,020 Toyota customers can go green in two available bold, fresh colors: Supersonic Red or the new Wind Chill Pearl.

    With a dashing black exterior trim, blackout headlight components and a color-keyed rear spoiler, the special Prius introduces a sporty look that will impress any car savant.

    Efficiency

    Then again, Prius drivers understand that everything should come with a purpose. The coffee holders are crucial to the morning commute. The hands-free Bluetooth capability lets them stay productive while on the go. And the six speakers make those times stuck in traffic a bit more fun.

    Even the Prius silhouette has its impetus. The signature design produces an ultra-low 0.24 coefficient of drag. And the automatic grille shutter adds even more efficiency by closing when the radiator is not needed.

    Volume

    Nothing can ruin a trip faster than poor legroom. All that extra efficiency and high MPG estimates don’t mean anything if the crew needs to stop and stretch every 30 minutes.

    So, while the Prius frame maxes out productivity, on the inside it adds extra space — enough space that the Prius is classified as a midsize car by the EPA. All front-wheel drive models, including the 2020 edition, have an additional 50.7 cubic feet of cargo space when the rear seatbacks are folded down. That’s like 10 minifridges or six pieces of carry-on luggage, if the band is finally getting back together.

    Sometimes speed limit signs rush by pretty quickly, and if you’re out on the open road, it could be a while before you see another one.

    Prius drivers don’t have to wait. Road Sign Assist detects and displays certain signs right on the driver’s dashboard screen. It’s just one of a suite of features with Toyota Safety Sense 2.0 in the latest Prius. With tools like Pedestrian Detection (which applies the brakes when detecting a person in the road) or Lane Departure Alert (which lets the driver know when the car is beginning to drift), Prius drivers can be better prepared for every twist and turn.

    Fourth-Gen Hybrid

    Of course, new colors and forward-thinking features need a place to call home. Utilizing the Toyota New Global Architecture, Toyota’s universal frame for all fourth-generation vehicles, the new Prius is the most efficient to date and the quietest.

    Wayne
     
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