482,000 VW TDIs Produce 5 to 35Xs the NOx Beyond Federal Emissions Requirements

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  1. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Thanks for the links, Carcus.
     
  2. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    I believe you can use it for anything you want at the dealer. Assuming that the '17 TDIs will be available by then, which is questionable.
     
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  3. radtech

    radtech Active Member

    Has a date in Novemeber been posted as to when to "buy back" program is going to start in the US?
     
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  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Questionable , and unlikely. I'm hoping for the best , but it may take a few years. Meanwhile , (some) people still buy diesel cars from Mercedes , BMW , and Jaguar.
     
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  5. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    You can register here and I believe you can select a date:

    https://claims.vwgoa.com/#/
     
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  6. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Sunday August 14, 2016

    [​IMG] VW in Europe Receives Approval for 1.2L EA189 TDI Engine Fix

    The Federal Motor Transport Authority (KBA) has approved the technical solutions for vehicles with the 1.2L EA189 TDI engine. The KBA approval applies to 460,000 vehicles of affected Group brands, including the Volkswagen Polo and SEAT Ibiza models. The software update can be promptly carried out on the first vehicles of the second affected engine-size category. The owners of these models are being informed to make an appointment with an authorized workshop to have the update completed.

    In Germany customers are being informed in a 2-stage process.

    Stage one - All of the owners concerned have already been notified through a letter agreed with the KBA that their vehicle is affected by the modification program.

    Stage two – A second letter informs customers to make an appointment with a business partner of their choice. Being sent in several tranches, this letter is now going to owners of the aforementioned models with 1.2L TDI engines.

    The modification for vehicles with affected 2.0L TDI engines began at the start of the year. This is now being followed by the implementation of the technical solution for vehicles with the smallest cubic capacity version of the affected EA189 engine type. Technical solutions are thus now available for affected models with 2.0L TDI and 1.2L TDI engines.

    Following the modification, the vehicles fulfil all statutory requirements. The KBA has also confirmed that the technical solutions for these models cause no changes to fuel consumption levels, performance data or noise emissions. The KBA had previously already affirmed this for all other vehicles approved to date for the recall.

    VW is continuing to put every effort into implementing the technical solutions and will correct all vehicles affected by the NOx issue. This is being done in close consultation with the relevant authorities. The customers will incur no costs as a result of the technical measures being carried out. As part of the recall process all customers are also being offered an appropriate replacement means of transport free of charge.

    The affected vehicles are technically safe and fit to drive. Between now and their modification, they can continue to be used on the road without any restrictions. The required technical solutions are being implemented across Europe based on a schedule and action plan agreed with the KBA.
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Thursday August 25, 2016

    [​IMG] VW and VW Branded Franchise Dealers in the U.S. Reach Agreement to Resolve Diesel Litigation

    VW Group of America, Inc. announced it has reached an agreement in principle to resolve the claims of VW-branded franchise dealers in the U.S. relating to TDI vehicles affected by the TDI stop sale and resultant sales losses and other matters asserted concerning the value of the franchise. VW has agreed to make cash payments and provide additional benefits to the dealers to resolve alleged past, current and future claims of losses in franchise value. VW and the dealers’ counsel will work to finalize details of the proposed settlement, including how to apportion payments to dealers in the appropriate manner.

    Details of the agreement in principle are still under discussion and are expected to be finalized at the end of September. Any proposed agreement will become effective only after approval by the Court, and the parties have agreed to keep further terms confidential as they work to finalize the agreement. Under the agreement, Volkswagen will consent to the certification – for settlement purposes only – of a class of VW-branded franchise dealers in the United States as of an agreed date.

    The plaintiffs filed the initial complaint against Volkswagen on April 6, 2016, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois. The litigation was subsequently transferred to the multidistrict proceedings in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California.
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Friday September 30, 2016

    [​IMG] VW Resolves Claims with its Dealers in the U.S.

    VW announced that it finalized an agreement to resolve the claims of VW-branded franchise dealers in the U.S. relating to TDI vehicle sales and other matters asserted concerning the value of the franchise.

    Under the proposed agreement, VW has agreed to make a maximum total of $1.208 billion in cash payments to eligible dealers and to provide additional benefits to resolve alleged past, current and future claims of losses in franchise value. The parties announced an agreement in principle on August 25.

    The proposed agreement was filed by the dealers’ counsel with the United States District Court for the Northern District of California and is subject to the approval of Judge Charles R. Breyer, who presides over the federal Multi-District Litigation (MDL) proceedings related to the diesel matter.

    By its terms, the agreement is not intended to apply to or affect Volkswagen's obligations under the laws or regulations of any jurisdiction outside the United States, where the legal and factual circumstances relating to TDI vehicles differ.
     
  10. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Do you think the franchise dealers will pay VW if the company turns around and sells a lot of EVs? I think not. Just the usual greed and with lawyers profiting from the carnage.
     
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  11. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bill:

    Wow!

    Wayne
     
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  13. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I guess dishonesty pervades in all walks of life, so it shouldn't surprise us to see some examples crop up.

    It is good to see VW get closer to putting the diesel scandal behind them. It seems like there could have been a lot more casualties of the diesel scandal; only VW was caught first and with the biggest headlines and penalties.

    I'm sad that a potentially viable and efficient choice is now less likely to continue.
     
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Tuesday October 25th, 2016

    [​IMG] VW Obtains Final Approval Of 2.0L TDI Settlement Program In The U.S.

    Here is the release…

    VW announced today that Judge Charles R. Breyer of the U.S. Sates District Court for the Northern District of California has granted final approval to the settlement agreement between VW and private plaintiffs represented by a Court-appointed Plaintiffs’ Steering Committee (PSC) to resolve civil claims regarding eligible VW and Audi 2.0L TDI vehicles in the U.S. Concurrently, Judge Breyer also approved a Consent Decree between VW and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) on behalf of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the State of California by and through the California Air Resources Board (CARB) and the California Attorney General; and a Consent Order between VW and the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC). All three agreements were previously announced.
    VW remains focused on resolving other outstanding issues in the U.S. and continues to work towards an agreed resolution for customers with affected 3.0L TDI V6 diesel engines.

    The implementation of the 2.0L TDI settlement program will begin immediately. Customers with eligible vehicles may submit claims using a paper claim form (available at VW Court Settlement or by calling (1-844-98-CLAIM) or via an online portal at the same. Once a customer’s claim is approved, a customer can schedule appointments with dedicated settlement specialists who have been assigned to dealership locations.

    Under the terms of the 2.0L TDI settlement agreements, affected owners and lessees will be able to choose whether to accept a buyback or lease termination, or receive an approved emissions modification for their vehicle (if and when it becomes available). VW will also make cash payments to affected current and certain former owners and lessees.

    VW has also agreed to pay $2.7 billion over three years into an environmental trust, managed by a trustee appointed by the Court, to remediate excess nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions from 2.0L TDI vehicles in the United States and invest $2.0 billion over 10 years in zero emissions vehicle (ZEV) infrastructure, access and awareness initiatives.

    The following 2.0L TDI engine vehicles are included in the 2.0L TDI settlement program:

    2013- 2015 VW Beetle , 2010-2015 VW Golf , 2009-2015 VW Jetta, 2012-2015 VW Passat, and the 2010-2013; 2015 Audi A3.

    By their terms, these agreements are not intended to apply to or affect VW’s obligations under the laws or regulations of any jurisdiction outside the United States. Regulations governing nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions limits for vehicles in the U.S. are much stricter than those in other parts of the world and the engine variants also differ significantly. This makes the development of technical solutions in the United States more challenging than in Europe and other parts of the world, where implementation of an approved program to modify TDI vehicles to comply fully with UN/ECE and European emissions standards has already begun by agreement with the relevant authorities.

    Questions still remaining include what will be an approved fix and will we see 2017 2.0L TDIs in the Beetle, Golf, Golf Alltrack, Jetta, and Passat?
     
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  15. kbergene

    kbergene Active Member

    Reuters reporting this morning, (another) device used on automatic transmission cars - gasoline and diesel - on the Audi brand:

    "A U.S. regulator found software in some Audi vehicles that lowered their carbon dioxide emissions if it detected they were being used under test conditions, Bild am Sonntag reported.

    The California Air Resources Board (CARB) discovered the software in an automatic transmission Audi last summer, the German weekly newspaper said, without citing any sources.

    CARB and Audi declined to comment on Sunday's Bild am Sonntag report.

    The paper said the device, which was not the same as the one which triggered last year's diesel emissions scandal at Audi parent Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE), was also used in diesel and gasoline-powered cars in Europe."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...SKBN1300V7?feedType=RSS&feedName=businessNews
     
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  16. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Thanks, I ran across that just now from a different source and started a new thread in the Audi section. WTH is up with these people?
     
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  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I was speaking to some VW Reps at the LA Auto Show Press Days yesterday. The TDI may be gone for good in the U.S. It will probably not be back in any 2017 MY VW including the upcoming Atlas SUV which needs the 3.0L TDI the most.

    All the while the previously announced 2017 Cruze and just announced 2018 Mazda6 will be receiving their own TDs.

    Wayne
     
  18. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I read yesterday that Mazda's bringing the CX-5 in diesel form to the US in 2017. Any truth in that?
     
  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bill:

    The 2017 Mazda CX-5 will receive the 2.2L SKYACTIV-D in mid 2017. :)

    Wayne
     
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  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Here in America ? Wow. I've heard this one before. Too good to be true. Fact , fiction , speculation , rumor ?

    But if they actually do , I'llstill be complaining that they didn't put that drivetrain in a proper sedan or station wagon. :)
     

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