Clint Eastwood in “It’s Halftime in America”

Discussion in 'Chrysler' started by xcel, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Yes! Great for Chrysler and all the other manufacturers. The rebound of the industry is felt in many sectors.
    What is American? Is the corporate headquarters based here. Is the product manufactured here. That is the question. Are all Ford products manufactured here? No! Are all GM products manufactured here? NO! Are all Chrysler products manufactured here? NO! The list goes on. Honda and Toyota have a tremendous amount of vehicles manufactured here and the Chrysler message includes them as well.
  2. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    The important part is that jobs and factories come back, without factories you cant hire newly minted engineers, and without engineers we are a nation in big trouble. Fast food joints, law firms and welfare offices dont hire engineers.
  3. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Never would have thought Fiat would be "teaching Chrysler" how to build cars/make $$.
    MB- fancy big name company-did NOTHING for Chrysler-heck didn't make any effort to improve FE despite their engineering expertise

    On the other hand-Fiat had 2 kinda cool cars it exported to the USA-
    The 124 and I liked the Spider even more.Wait-that is wrong-the 124 was a Spider-I meant that little mid engined sports car-forget its name-number?? I think it was mid engined-swoopy looking in any case.Maybe it just had a number name??
    But most of Fiat's legacy was negative-They had some really indifferent cars they tried to sell just when Japan was starting selling much better much less expensive cars.
    Hurray for Fiat and Chrysler

    Besides Italians appear to genetically incapable of making ugly metal-just not in their genes.Just look at the little 500-cute little sucker-much cuter than the Smart despite being about the same size/shape.
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2012
  4. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    Control and the flow of money matters. Everything else gets squeezed as much as possible.

    The Chrysler message doesn't apply to them. They solved the problem of making money by building good, reliable, efficient vehicles many years ago.

    Fiat came in and decided the best way to make money right now was a lick of paint, a macho image and patriotism. They've judged a good tranche of the American population well, which is actually pretty sad, when you think about it. Well, I think it's sad, but I'm an alien.
  5. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    It does include "all" since they are vital part of the American economy. They employ thousands in the US in manufacturing, service and sales that pumps millions of dollars into the pockets of Americans.
  6. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Honda and Toyota had the good sense to build their factories in non union states.
    The Big 3 were stuck with contracts and unions from the 1950's when they were the only game in town.

    Some -a lot- of Honda's and Toyota's success was because of lower wages.
    When you have lower manufacturing costs you can afford QC- and with no unions you can FORCE your employees to take QC seriously(do it or we fire you)
    Having the whip hand in respect to your work force means your can afford R&D QC.
    Are the Chinese doing so well because they are SOOOO SMART??
    Of course not!! Low wages can mean good QC lots of R&D money.

    Why is Japan in the Doldrums now- HIGH WAGES- High manufacturing costs- lotta old people.
    We went thru the same " problem" when Japan became a dominant exporter economic power "end of USA etc- Japan buying USA" same crap I hear now.
    Our wages went down-theirs went up-and eventually their internal problems got the best of them.
    China has plenty of potential internal problems.How do you think the 1 billion poorer workers are going to view the upper 1% that is living high in plain view-and the 1 billion underclass will be very aware that other folks live much better-bigger living spaces not as degraded an environment.
    They-the Chinese- have slaughtered their privileged class in the last 100 years-and they punished the upper middle class at least once also(only because they couldn't get at the real elite).

    Yeah-China has problems on the horizon. Our current problems aren't new-the depression was much much worse-with a bad environmental disaster at the same time.

    The USA will be OK. We will improve EDU system-somewhat restrict entitlements-and be ok- but it will be a bumpy ride for a bit .
  7. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    Well, that explains why German cars are such failures.

    The US companies were never stuck, they simply didn't have the brains to see the problems or the balls to correct them.
  8. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    MB VW don't build particularly reliable cars.
    They do have good advertising/branding etc.
    Ads are important.

    Besides Germany is pretty homogenous and doesn't have a Huge poorly educated underclass of citizens who had no part of the American Dream until maybe 1.5 generations ago.
    We have 40,000,000 descendants of slaves, and we will be paying that bill for a while.
    It was great for the rich planters bankers and shippers- not so great for the rest of the USA.
    Too bad Ireland didn't have a famine earlier- or maybe China needed WORSE famines!
    Oh well, that milk is spilled.

    Germany is Switzerland but not as lovable
  9. SentraSE-R

    SentraSE-R Pishtaco

    ^^^? You forgot Germany rising from the ashes of defeat after WWI and WWII? When did Germany take in the entire debt and infrastructure of a bankrupt East Germany? About 1.5 generations ago? I thought so ;).

    You're probably thinking of the Fiat X1/9.

    The only Fiat I've ever driven was a rental Fiat Uno 5 speed manual hatchback in Israel. 600 miles all around the country, with complete reliability.
  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    My brother was a glutton for punishment. He owned THREE Fiats ; 1974 128SL , 1975
    131 , and a Yugo. I owned a 1975 128SL , which was a 1290cc front-drive coupe. Sweet handling , good braking, horrible reliability. Talk about your buzz-bomb gearing : 4000 rpm in top gear (4th) yielded 57 MPH ! It would pull 7000 rpm in top gear (about 97 MPH).

    Good fun.
  11. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    But there's no "half-time" for Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai and Kia. It's business as usual.

    And their presence isn't anything to celebrate. Their presence is a sign of the failure of the domestic industry.
  12. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Iowahawk parodies the ad:

    "A Fistful of Rebates

    It’s halftime.

    Both teams are in their locker rooms discussing what they can do to win this game in the second half. Diagramming plays. Texting their agents and German supermodel wives. Reviewing Belichick's aerial spy photos.

    It’s halftime in America, too. People are hurting, and it isn't because of towel snapping and the ol' Kramergesic-in-the-jockstrap prank. They’re beat up and bruised, and wondering what they’re going to do to make a comeback. We’re all scared, because this isn’t a game. And because we're up against the Dragons and their all-Asia linebacker Hong Kong Chong with his crazy 'roid rage chopsockey chop-blocks.

    The people of Detroit know a little something about this. Okay, yeah, so this isn't Detroit, it's actually New Orleans. So sue me. We were supposed to film this in Detroit, but GM rented it out to film their Chevy Truck Apocalypse ad. But imagine this really was Detroit, with all its gritty inspiring he-man decay. When the chips were down we all pulled together, hosed down the streets, and turned up the dramatic shadow lighting. Now Motor City is fighting again - as the world's cheapest location shoot for zombie movies.

    Sure, I’ve seen a lot of tough eras, a lot of downturns in my life. I was in 'Every Which Way But Loose,' for crissakes. There were times when we didn’t understand each other, because you complained that I sounded like an emphezema victim who gargled with Grape Nuts. The fog of division, discord, and blame made it hard to see what lies ahead, no matter how hard I squinted.

    Somebody get me a throat lozenge."
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  13. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    The ad was good. It resonated. The American auto industry was in the spotlight and the entire economy received a pep talk from Clint Eastwood. The end.
  14. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

  15. rfruth

    rfruth Well-Known Member

    Dirty harry delivered !

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