Dodge Dart Achieves 40mpg Combined

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  1. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    [​IMG] In late December, Chrysler Group achieved the Fuel Economy Test, for an unadjusted combined rating of 40 mpg

    [FIMG=RIGHT][/FIMG]Ricardo Bowlin - CleanMPG - Jan 05, 2012

    Fuel-Efficient Dodge Dart to Be Revealed at NAIAS on Jan. 9

    Chrysler today announced that Fiat S.p.A.'s ownership interest in the Company has increased to 58.5 percent, from 53.5 percent (fully diluted), upon the Company’s achievement of the final of three performance-related milestones.

    As provided in its June 10, 2009 Operating Agreement, Chrysler Group issued a letter to the U.S. Department of the Treasury stating that the Company has irrevocably committed to begin assembly of a vehicle with an unadjusted combined fuel economy of at least 40 mpg in commercial quantities in a production facility located in the United States. As a result, Fiat’s ownership interest increased automatically by 5 percent under the terms of the Operating Agreement.

    The ownership interests of Chrysler Group’s members are now:

    Fiat: 58.5 percent
    UAW VEBA: 41.5 percent

    In late December, Chrysler Group achieved the Fuel Economy Test, for an unadjusted combined rating of 40 mpg, with a pre-production version of the Dodge Dart, its new, state-of-the-art, four-door sedan.

    With the 2013 Dodge Dart, Chrysler Group is redefining performance in the compact car segment and delivering world-class aerodynamics. With Alfa Romeo DNA and Dodge’s passion for performance at its core, the all-new 2013 Dodge Dart is a thoroughly modern and fuel-efficient vehicle that’s beautifully designed and crafted, agile and brings driving fun back to the segment. The all-new Dodge Dart will be made in the United States at Chrysler Group’s Belvidere Assembly Plant in Belvidere, Ill.

    The Dodge Dart is scheduled to be unveiled at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit on Jan. 9.

    This is the fifth time in the past year that Fiat has increased its ownership in Chrysler Group.

    In June 2009, Fiat initially received a 20 percent stake in Chrysler Group in exchange for sharing intellectual property and other resources with the Company.

    On Jan. 10, 2011, Fiat announced that its stake in the Company increased to 25 percent when Chrysler Group received the appropriate government approvals and committed to begin commercial production of the Fully Integrated Robotized Engine (FIRE) in its Dundee, Mich., facility.

    On April 12, Fiat’s ownership in Chrysler Group increased to 30 percent as Chrysler Group achieved cumulative revenue of more than $1.5 billion attributable to Company sales made outside of Canada, Mexico and the United States and entered into distribution agreements in Brazil and Europe, as well as a technology-use agreement.

    In connection with Chrysler Group refinancing and paying back its U.S. and Canadian government loans in full on May 24, six years early, Fiat exercised its call option to increase its ownership interest in Chrysler Group by an incremental 16 percent to 46 percent, on a fully diluted basis.

    And on July 21, Fiat reported that it paid $500 million to purchase the U.S. Treasury’s remaining 6 percent (fully diluted) ownership interest in Chrysler Group and $125 million to purchase the Canadian governments' remaining 1.5 percent (fully diluted) ownership interest, bringing its fully diluted ownership interest to 53.5 percent. In addition, Fiat paid $75 million to obtain assignment of the U.S. Treasury’s rights under the Equity Recapture Agreement.

    With the submission of the letter to the U.S. Treasury, Fiat’s stake in Chrysler Group is now 58.5 percent.
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  2. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    So what's the fudge factor down to window sticker?
  3. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    If that's a CAFE number, it's about 25% down, or 30 mpg. Not as good as most competitors.
    If it's NEDC, I believe that's about 10% higher than ours, or 36 mpg. That's pretty impressive.
  4. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    Numbers are closer to 30mpg combined. It will be interesting to see the spread. That said, the fiat 500 only capable of 38mph hwy wont easily be beat by a larger vehicle using the same technology and equipment.

    That said, not sure which trim they selected for testing as there are at least three combos as Wayne mentioned.
  5. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    If what I have seen on about the Fiat 500 is true, though, it seems to be getting better than sticker mileage, so the same may hold true for the Dart.
  6. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    I generally find the chrysler vehicles to get much more than their stated mpg values when compared to other vehicles in a similar category. An example was the SUV shootout where the Dodge Journey V6 averaged 27.6mpg, whereas the 4 cyl. Equinox averaged about 28.xx. The kia sportage also received much lower in the group than the epa numbers would suggest.

    I don't quite remember the parameters at the time, but I remember it being quite comparable (same driver etc.)

    That said, test drive the car and use your scanguage for comparison. FCD readout accuracy isn't exactly reliable.
  7. RichXKU

    RichXKU Well-Known Member

    Unless you've spent several tanks calibrating the scangauge, the built in FCD will probably be more accurate. Heck even after many tanks in my CRZ the built-in beats the SGII.
  8. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    MY apologies. I failed to mention the scangauge needs to be calibrated. That said. FCD readout accuracy vary among manufacturers from underreporting to overreporting. A personal scangauge is standard and even if inaccurate, maintains precision for comparison between two different vehicles.
  9. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

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    herm Well-Known Member

  11. uRabbit

    uRabbit Well-Known Member

    The most fuel efficient Dodge since... the... Shadow?

  12. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    The first-gen Neon 5MT was good for 24/36 under the '08 EPA. The Dodge Shadow 5MT was 21/31 with the 2.5L and 21/28 with the 2.2L. The Omni was in the same general range at 22/31 with the 2.2L and 5MT.
    So the Neon holds the title unless you count the MitsuMopars. But even the '94 Dodge Colt 1.5L / 5MT was at 28/35.
  13. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    For a semi-related comparison, my Civic is 41 mpg combined for CAFE, but 28/35 (31 comb) on the new EPA.
  14. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    The Dart is one car I am waiting for when the show begins next week. There will be three engines - 1.4, 2.0, and 2.4 liters. The 40mpg version will likely be the 1.4L MultiAir with 6MT, and so it should be in the same ballpark as the Cruze Eco (CAFE 40.94 combined with 6AT, 44.36 combined with 6MT). With the same footprint, curb weight, and engine displacement, it appears the Dart will hit the bullseye (pun intended) in matching the competition.

    What concerns me is that the 1.4L Dart won't be available, and local dealers will all have the 2.4L automatic versions which may or may not arrive with EPA numbers similar to the 1.8-equipped Cruze and Sonic. That wouldn't be breaking any new ground, and what Chrysler needs is a groundbreaking new entry in the highly competitive C-class.
  15. WriConsult

    WriConsult Super Moderator

    Well, I hope Chrysler/Fiat don't plan on putting that unadjusted 40mpg figure in a press release, because automakers are not allowed to advertise the unadjusted numbers. Besides, 40mpg unadjusted combined isn't even that impressive. Lots of conventional cars now exceed that threshold. Some examples:
    • Hyundai Elantra: 44.7mpg
    • Ford Fiesta: 43.9mpg -- and that's NOT even talking about the SFE model.
    • Nissan Versa 1.6: 40.5mpg (MT), 45.1 (CVT)
    • Honda Civic DX/LX/EX: 41.8mpg. Again, the HF model is even higher.
    • Subaru Impreza CVT: 40.4mpg (yes, an AWD vehicle!)
    • Toyota Yaris: 44.9mpg
    This is not a complete list, just some popular examples.
  16. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    but we are talking about a multiair engine, with some potential for atkinson cycle efficiency.
  17. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    I'll give you the hyundai elantra,...that's it.

    The fiesta is a smaller car.

    The versa is a smaller car.

    The civic, ok, 1.8mpg. Have you seen epa #'s vs capability? We all know a 1.8mpg difference in epa doesn't always translate in real world (Read the article stating Honda being taken to court). Let's wait and see what happens when Wayne takes this thing for a spin.

    The Subaru awd rated 27/36 is pretty good. It's still the same mpg, so that might not matter to some people where there is no snow.

    Yaris is a much smaller car.

    Compare the target market cars for something that makes sense.
  18. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    My experience is that Hondas tend to have more "headroom" above epa than some other makes. Degraded IMA batteries are a notable exception, but we're comparing apples to apples, right? Hybrids need not apply.
  19. Nevyn

    Nevyn Well-Known Member

    Not allowed to advertise unadjusted? I saw at the Mazda dealer a Mazda3 with 47 MPG!!! on the side.

    I was furious and wanted to give them a piece of my mind.
  20. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    Just to add, my Dodge avenger V6 has much more potential than my 4 cylinder eclipse That is, if i pushed both cars, my avenger would walk all over my eclipse.

    When driven normal, the eclipse is much more fuel efficient. That said..maybe I need to adjust some and use different techniques with the Eclipse.

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