Looking for a 4wd vehicle!

Discussion in '4x4's, SUV's and P/U Trucks' started by carrmann, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    I was close.. got 11! lol. not disappointed, the 3.55 gears hurt in that situation, it had to kick down quite often just to stay above min speed limit on hills.
  2. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    oh... the ultragauge doesnt work pretty much at all. when i manually calcuated the 13.8mpg, it said I got 11.2mpg. mph and mileage were both within a few tenths of dead on.

    whenever it goes to 'eco mode' the numbers actually go down. gonna have to figure out how to get it to work on it.
  3. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    11 mpg towing 7000 lbs-very very good at over 60 mph.
    Just like Escape said-usually gasoline motors give 8 mpg towing 7000 lbs at 60+ mph.
    In fact when these towing folks get that single digit FE
    it frequently provokes then to think about spending big bucks to get a diesel!
    Doubt a diesel would get much better than 13 mpg towing 7000 lbs at 65-70 mph.
    My buddies 3/4 ton Ford with the 7.3 4x4 only got 14mpg hy NOT TOWING (2002 I think)
  4. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    With that kind of weight, I still think its pretty good. My 98 GMC K1500, which weighs nearly 3 tons all by itself, with about 1,500 pounds of motorcycle, luggage, and passengers gets 16 MPG with the cruise set on 70, and that's on E10 fuel too. I'd imagine if I could easily get E0 off of I-95 I could do even better. I will be making the same trip again this spring, and this time I will do active searching and calling stations before I go to setup my fuel stops, and see how much better I can do on E0.
  5. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    made me feel better, thanks guys!

    not sure how much the truck weighs, im guessing around 3tons by itself (4wd quad cab). 4 full size wheels/winter tires is another 300lbs easy, my dad/myself another 400lbs, 100lbs of tools (he planned on driving his vehicle up.. however had a problem that I couldnt fix), 150lbs of luggage. trailer/durango was about 6000lbs.

    most of the diesels need some 'tuning' to get that crazy mpg. i have friends that see 20s with their diesels, but they have mods that make them much more fuel efficient than stock (no emissions or inspections in FL).

    08escape, what is E10 and E0?
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2012
  6. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    ok, first try! 205.7 miles, 10.94 gals. comes out to 18.8mpg.stop and go, a lil 'playing', and some casual driving (speeds up to 65mph). not too bad so far! i try to keep it in 'econ on' mode as often as possible (which is 4cyl mode). shifting into N and coasting = a longer coast, but it wont go into 4cyl mode then. I need to figure out how to get my ultragauge to work to show the correct mpg in 4cyl mode so I can see which is more FE effective.
  7. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    E10 is the typical 10% ethanol blend, and E0 is straight gas with no ethanol.
  8. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    Oops, don't know how I missed that one. Thanks for giving him the answer ksstathead.:woot:
  9. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    doin ok with it so far. high 17 2nd tankful, mid 18s the other 2. not too shabby for a fullsize truck. im expecting better this tank.

    last tankful (18.5mpg) was done shifting into N and coasting to lights/stop signs (or stopped traffic).

    this tank will be coasting in D to lights/stop signs or traffic. when i leave it in D it stays in ECO mode (4cyl deactivated), but wont coast as far (trans drags, does not free wheel like my old ram in OD).
  10. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    carrmann, read almost the entire 17 pages. I'm a dodge guy myself, but haven't really dont much on the truck side. I see those mpg figures and I run in the other direction. Why don't you try dwl? get up to speeed briskly, then keep a light load on the throttle. Use this as your "coasting" instead of putting it in neutral and see how that works out ;). I think this will work better for you if you are not using FAS.
  11. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    thats essentially what I do now jusbringit. the problem is i often end up in stop/go traffic and at stop signs. I drive with a load (light throttle/constant speed) to the best of my ability, and when i anticipate or see a red light/stopped traffic or what have you i let off and coast.

    last time i did it was putting it in N, but when you put it into N it doesnt go into cylinder deactivation mode. I wasnt sure which is more economical.. i should know after this tankful.

    most of this driving is max speed of 60mph or so, with stop n go (quite a bit), stop signs, and traffic lights (my area isnt very conducive to good gas mileage.. and there is NO way around my way to work).
  12. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    18 mpg is pretty good for more or less city driving in a 5500 lbs 4x4 pickup.
    It will be interesting to see how it does on the trip north.
  13. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    last tankful was a good one! got ~19.6mpg. same kind of conditions.. just being a little gentler on the throttle, but this time leaving it in D (keeping eco on) instead of putting it into N.

    oh.. and my luck reappears i guess. my orders to alaska got cancelled. so I bought this truck for nothing. figures.
  14. SentraSE-R

    SentraSE-R Pishtaco

    Well, that's anticlimactic!
  15. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    If Alaska is not in your foreseeable future, it's time to think about swapping the QuadCab for a 2013 Dart with a stick. That'd be the easiest way to double gas mileage. :)
  16. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Wow!! Life is that way isn't it!!
    No way to swap a new vehicle and not end up triple upside down.
    Heck the dealer would probably barely let you swap even -$30,000 truck VS $20,000 car
    Just hypermile the Hemi!
    Besides-the truck is more versatile-and you own it-well you are on the hook for it-
    Maybe buy some LITTLE MT BEATER-Prism-2000 maybe-save the miles and mpg on the Hemi
    See how easily I spend your $$-get your dad to find a MT little($1500 for him/you) beater
  17. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    Yea.. Im VERY unhappy about it. Been looking forward to/planning for this since roughly september. i was supposed to leave 2 weeks from the day they told me I WASNT going... sigh.

    I am going to attempt to sell it. I have it on EBAY and on craigslist. No dice yet tho sadly. I owe right around 27k on it I believe. Window sticker was 35k. If i cant sell it.. I have a nice truck that at least doesnt get Horrid gas mileage.

    I will probably get HOSED if I try and trade it in right now... which I would rather not do. Tho the dart is good lucking. I wish they hadnt called it that :mad: . Probably wont not buy anything else anytime soon until i see what they are going to do to me (looks like a retirement, due to medical issues). will just be making an extra 300-400$ a month in payments to get some equity in it so Hopefully I can sell it, or if I have to trade it in (doubtful). The gas savings of a more economical vehicle would be offset by more expensive insurance (i spend about 150$ a month now on fuel with this... adding any vehicle brings my insurance Up between 50-100$ a month lol).

    thanks for spending my money btw phoebeisis lol!! i'll do my best to get good mileage in the truck for now :) .
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2012

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