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Discussion in 'Chrysler' started by xcel, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Blackbelt:

    ___Understood and I am sorry for pushing the subject back at you.

    ___Good Luck

  2. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    No problem Wayne. This site is a great source of information, and i am just trying to help add to that info.
  3. Tallswede

    Tallswede Member

    I appreciate your perspective and understand where you're coming from, I just look at it from a different angle.

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  4. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    If the long-term cost is similar, the difference ends up being, "how much of my money goes where?"

    Me, I'd rather spend more on the car and less on the gas. Cars are recyclable, fuel is not. Cars we can buy come from friendly places (local or trade partners), much of our fuel comes from UNfriendly places. I'd rather support our friends or hometown folks than support our enemies. I'd rather spend the same money to have cleaner air than to have dirtier air.

    pricey car, fuel efficient:
    pay our friends, less pollution, saves some limited resources

    cheap car, gas guzzler:
    pay our enemies, more pollution, use up resources sooner

    And then there's always the used fuel efficient option, which will take less of your money entirely.
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  5. Tallswede

    Tallswede Member

    The overall cost for my vehicles is far smaller than buying new. Initial cost to buy, maintenance, parts, insurance, is all lower than buying a new hybrid. The difference in the amount of fuel I buy at anywhere near todays prices will never recoup my costs. As far as polution goes, what about the emissions that occur in producing another hybrid vehicle and its attendant batteries etc. Plastics are used in all modern vehicles. Guess what, these come from oil. I and most of my nieghbors work in the oil industry and all the support industries keep the rest of my nieghbors working and producing and paying taxes etc just like the folks building cars. All these industries would not be possible without oil. Yes, we must conserve oil, reduce, reuse, and advance the technical boundaries. There are many ways to do this. I'm not about to bash someone who needs a new or newer vehicle and wants to try the new technology hybrids and EVs offer. But, niether will I say that someone who isn't comfortable with all the new technology is wrong to use the old and try to make the most of what they have and can afford.

  6. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    My old fuel-efficient car costs me about $1300 a year in total operating costs. That includes fuel, insurance, repairs and state registration.

    What are your annual operating costs? I'd guess you pay more than $1300 for fuel alone.

    I know you're already in the situation you are in. It rarely makes financial sense to replace a vehicle early, even for a more efficient one. Just think about this when it does come time to replace something in your fleet.

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